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Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:21 pm
by Bi_3
tommy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Unless you have reason to question your own motives re: the friendship prior to this impending event, then no. In any meaningful friendship, you should strive to be your authentic self, and your authentic self has this framed memorabilia because you’re a fan of her art.
For you to remove the art would be negating your true self in hopes of honoring some perceived sense of potential discomfort on her part. You’d be conducting a transaction to advance the friendship, rather than simply being yourself and letting things fall where they may.
I like this answer.
It's pleasant, but wrong. Take it down unless she and Platty have a number of mutual friends attending. Otherwise it will look like she's a trophy guest and frame her as her celebrity and not a person. i.e. let her define herself to strangers instead of doing it for her.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:36 pm
by The Argonaut
tree_ wrote:Also in support of the trag response. He's really got a good head on his shoulder these days.
But also it depends on the kind of head you have on your shoulders these days. If you're gonna be weird about it and can't help it, take it down. If you feel more comfortable as the evening progresses you can make a talking point out of it and hang it back up, in a sort of ceremonial way. It can be endearing to open up about your neuroses to your new friends, if done the right way. Artists tend to be neurotic so she'll probably relate.
This is it. Take it down before the party. Then, in the middle of the party climb atop a table and demand everyone's attention. Tell them all that you are living a lie, show them the picture, maybe cry a little, admit the truth, and hang it back up. Maybe smash and tear the false picture you replaced it with. Cry some more, collapse in a heap on the ground
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:44 pm
by tree_
The Argonaut wrote:tree_ wrote:Also in support of the trag response. He's really got a good head on his shoulder these days.
But also it depends on the kind of head you have on your shoulders these days. If you're gonna be weird about it and can't help it, take it down. If you feel more comfortable as the evening progresses you can make a talking point out of it and hang it back up, in a sort of ceremonial way. It can be endearing to open up about your neuroses to your new friends, if done the right way. Artists tend to be neurotic so she'll probably relate.
This is it. Take it down before the party. Then, in the middle of the party climb atop a table and demand everyone's attention. Tell them all that you are living a lie, show them the picture, maybe cry a little, admit the truth, and hang it back up. Maybe smash and tear the false picture you replaced it with. Cry some more, collapse in a heap on the ground
This is close to exactly what I was envisioning, but only if the party is going well; people are getting comfortable, discussing their hopes, dreams, and fears and whatnot, and you feel comfortable enough to do so.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:46 pm
by tommy
Bi_3 wrote:tommy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Unless you have reason to question your own motives re: the friendship prior to this impending event, then no. In any meaningful friendship, you should strive to be your authentic self, and your authentic self has this framed memorabilia because you’re a fan of her art.
For you to remove the art would be negating your true self in hopes of honoring some perceived sense of potential discomfort on her part. You’d be conducting a transaction to advance the friendship, rather than simply being yourself and letting things fall where they may.
I like this answer.
It's pleasant, but wrong. Take it down unless she and Platty have a number of mutual friends attending. Otherwise it will look like she's a trophy guest and frame her as her celebrity and not a person. i.e. let her define herself to strangers instead of doing it for her.
"to be yourself is all that you can be (all that you can be)"
-Chris Cornell (Audioslave)
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:48 pm
by tree_
tommy wrote:Bi_3 wrote:tommy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Unless you have reason to question your own motives re: the friendship prior to this impending event, then no. In any meaningful friendship, you should strive to be your authentic self, and your authentic self has this framed memorabilia because you’re a fan of her art.
For you to remove the art would be negating your true self in hopes of honoring some perceived sense of potential discomfort on her part. You’d be conducting a transaction to advance the friendship, rather than simply being yourself and letting things fall where they may.
I like this answer.
It's pleasant, but wrong. Take it down unless she and Platty have a number of mutual friends attending. Otherwise it will look like she's a trophy guest and frame her as her celebrity and not a person. i.e. let her define herself to strangers instead of doing it for her.
"to be yourself is all that you can be (all that you can be)"
-Chris Cornell (Audioslave)
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts." - Billy Shakes
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:51 pm
by tommy
tree_ wrote:tommy wrote:Bi_3 wrote:tommy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Unless you have reason to question your own motives re: the friendship prior to this impending event, then no. In any meaningful friendship, you should strive to be your authentic self, and your authentic self has this framed memorabilia because you’re a fan of her art.
For you to remove the art would be negating your true self in hopes of honoring some perceived sense of potential discomfort on her part. You’d be conducting a transaction to advance the friendship, rather than simply being yourself and letting things fall where they may.
I like this answer.
It's pleasant, but wrong. Take it down unless she and Platty have a number of mutual friends attending. Otherwise it will look like she's a trophy guest and frame her as her celebrity and not a person. i.e. let her define herself to strangers instead of doing it for her.
"to be yourself is all that you can be (all that you can be)"
-Chris Cornell (Audioslave)
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts." - Billy Shakes
Exactly
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:54 pm
by The Argonaut
tree_ wrote:The Argonaut wrote:tree_ wrote:Also in support of the trag response. He's really got a good head on his shoulder these days.
But also it depends on the kind of head you have on your shoulders these days. If you're gonna be weird about it and can't help it, take it down. If you feel more comfortable as the evening progresses you can make a talking point out of it and hang it back up, in a sort of ceremonial way. It can be endearing to open up about your neuroses to your new friends, if done the right way. Artists tend to be neurotic so she'll probably relate.
This is it. Take it down before the party. Then, in the middle of the party climb atop a table and demand everyone's attention. Tell them all that you are living a lie, show them the picture, maybe cry a little, admit the truth, and hang it back up. Maybe smash and tear the false picture you replaced it with. Cry some more, collapse in a heap on the ground
This is close to exactly what I was envisioning, but only if the party is going well; people are getting comfortable, discussing their hopes, dreams, and fears and whatnot, and you feel comfortable enough to do so.
Yes! Also, Jorge, make sure that you have consumed way more alcohol than everyone else by this point and that they are all aware of it. Maybe do a little dance or honk a horn every time you pour yourself a new drink
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 3:57 pm
by tree_
The Argonaut wrote:tree_ wrote:The Argonaut wrote:tree_ wrote:Also in support of the trag response. He's really got a good head on his shoulder these days.
But also it depends on the kind of head you have on your shoulders these days. If you're gonna be weird about it and can't help it, take it down. If you feel more comfortable as the evening progresses you can make a talking point out of it and hang it back up, in a sort of ceremonial way. It can be endearing to open up about your neuroses to your new friends, if done the right way. Artists tend to be neurotic so she'll probably relate.
This is it. Take it down before the party. Then, in the middle of the party climb atop a table and demand everyone's attention. Tell them all that you are living a lie, show them the picture, maybe cry a little, admit the truth, and hang it back up. Maybe smash and tear the false picture you replaced it with. Cry some more, collapse in a heap on the ground
This is close to exactly what I was envisioning, but only if the party is going well; people are getting comfortable, discussing their hopes, dreams, and fears and whatnot, and you feel comfortable enough to do so.
Yes! Also, Jorge, make sure that you have consumed way more alcohol than everyone else by this point and that they are all aware of it. Maybe do a little dance or honk a horn every time you pour yourself a new drink
Yeah, and maybe before pouring your drink, very loudly exclaim something like, "Oh boyyy! Someone should stop me cause every time I have more than 2 drinks I do something stupid and reveal wayyy too much about myself!!" But DO NOT let anyone stop you. This way you will have an excuse if it doesn't go over well. It was the alcohol's fault, not yours.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 4:26 pm
by 96583UP
Agree with all of the above - also, suggest you brandish the largest kitchen knife you have during this speech, waving it regularly and using it to point at things, and then holding it to your wrist at the end when you ask if anyone has any questions
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Mon August 21, 2023 4:32 pm
by tommy
I'm not sure about this advice. It feels like Jorge would look more foolish than usual if he did any of that.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 12:08 am
by Jorge
Thanks for the advice, everybody
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 12:21 am
by Ello Sailor
You certainly came to the right place.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 12:34 am
by dad
96583UP wrote:Agree with all of the above - also, suggest you brandish the largest kitchen knife you have during this speech, waving it regularly and using it to point at things, and then holding it to your wrist at the end when you ask if anyone has any questions
Don’t even know what’s going on, but this is sound advice.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 1:19 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
No problem.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 1:30 am
by BurtReynolds
And I helped.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 1:42 am
by 96583UP
we are all rooting for Jorge
don't screw this up
this is your one chance
you only get one chance with Trampy McDiarrheabutt
don't miss the moment
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 2:15 am
by bodysnatcher
If you need to fly some of us in to keep the situation normal, my schedule is fairly open
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 2:15 am
by Ello Sailor
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 2:18 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
bodysnatcher wrote:If you need to fly some of us in to keep the situation normal, my schedule is fairly open
Same. I think you and I are two of the most reasonable posters here, so he'd probably only need us.
Re: Ask RM a Question
Posted: Tue August 22, 2023 2:24 am
by 96583UP
I can come too, and bring additional, longer, and sharper kitchen knives