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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 4:53 pm
by McParadigm
Ironic timing, given that the charges include witness tampering and obstruction of justice.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 4:54 pm
by tragabigzanda
WaPo:
The charge of witness tampering against Stone carries a statutory maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, and the other counts up to five-year terms, although a first offender would face far less time under federal sentencing guidelines.
So my guess is he'll do a couple years, assuming he doesn't win on appeal.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 4:56 pm
by Simple Torture
Never forget:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
Damn, the gov't asked him to be remanded until sentencing on February 6, but they're letting him go home until then. WTF?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:14 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:Roger Stone found guilty.
At this point, I don't even remember what the charges were.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:15 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:Damn, the gov't asked him to be remanded until sentencing on February 6, but they're letting him go home until then. WTF?
Counting on the inevitable pardon.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:27 pm
by bune
McParadigm wrote:Roger Stone found guilty.
I say he gets the pardon the same afternoon of sentencing.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:37 pm
by bune
Simple Torture wrote:Never forget:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 5:52 pm
by McParadigm
The size of the human head behind the Republican counsel

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:07 pm
by McParadigm
What on earth has this guy been trying to do for 45 minutes?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:13 pm
by McParadigm
THAT’S it?!?
What was that worth to Republicans? What was any of that worth? “Let’s spend 45 minutes lowballing the questions and making her sound even more credible. Then, when she answers each question, we’ll tacitly accept her every word as true and accurate and move on.”
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:15 pm
by bune
is it possible they're trying to get him impeached to see if he actually can pardon himself?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:17 pm
by McParadigm
bune wrote:is it possible they're trying to get him impeached to see if he actually can pardon himself?
I honestly wonder if they figure the House is a lost fight, and are just trying to gather information and test defenses for when it hits Congress.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:20 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:44 pm
by wease
bune wrote:McParadigm wrote:Roger Stone found guilty.
I say he gets the pardon the same afternoon of sentencing.
There's not a chance in hell he doesn't. Unless it's before.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:46 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:bune wrote:is it possible they're trying to get him impeached to see if he actually can pardon himself?
I honestly wonder if they figure the House is a lost fight, and are just trying to gather information and test defenses for when it hits Congress.
This sounds like the logical position to take.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:47 pm
by wease
bune wrote:is it possible they're trying to get him impeached to see if he actually can pardon himself?
Wasn't Nixon talking about trying to pardon himself BEFORE it even went to the vote so he couldn't be impeached?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:52 pm
by dimejinky99
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 6:54 pm
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:
Trump hangs with such classy people.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 15, 2019 7:25 pm
by McParadigm
Democrats did a weirdly great job today. It was almost as if they bothered to think about it at all, before showing up for the hearing. But obviously THAT can’t be right.