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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 12:27 am
by E.H. Ruddock
lol. When i was in the military i had to take part in a new anthrax vaccine trial. I wasn’t given a choice. Stop crying about the COVID vaccine you pussies

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 12:46 am
by B
Matters wrote:
B wrote:Google is overwhelmed with COVID stories, but Duke fires employees for noncompliance. https://flu.duke.edu/faq/#:~:text=Duke% ... employment.

That started when I was in a different position, so it was pre 2015.
That page shows a post covid policy. I’m asking for a case of a health care worker being fired for not taking the flu shot PRE COVID. You claimed it was required at that time. In my experience it was not. Those who declined the shot were simply told to wear a mask and enforcement was often negligible.
I defer to your superior knowledge of vaccine policy.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 12:46 am
by B
Matters wrote:
B wrote:Google is overwhelmed with COVID stories, but Duke fires employees for noncompliance. https://flu.duke.edu/faq/#:~:text=Duke% ... employment.

That started when I was in a different position, so it was pre 2015.
That page shows a post covid policy. I’m asking for a case of a health care worker being fired for not taking the flu shot PRE COVID. You claimed it was required at that time. In my experience it was not. Those who declined the shot were simply told to wear a mask and enforcement was often negligible.
I defer to your superior knowledge of vaccine policy.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 12:48 am
by Matters
E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol. When i was in the military i had to take part in a new anthrax vaccine trial. I wasn’t given a choice. Stop crying about the COVID vaccine you pussies
That’s great, we’re not talking about the military.

You signed away many of your rights when you joined and honestly I greatly respect you for that. It doesn’t mean other people who didn’t join should also be forced to give up some of those rights.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 1:00 am
by spike
Matters wrote:
spike wrote:Healthcare workers having to get vaccinated makes sense. If you can’t exempt yourself for medical or religious reasons, you’re basically implying you’re anti-vax, which throws into question your whole belief system around modern medicine. Which is worrisome given your profession of choice.
Modern medicine is based on so much more than simply a system of belief centered around vaccinations. My goodness. Additionally it should be very clear by now theres’s a big difference between being anti-vax and being anti covid (or flu) shots.
That’s not what I said at all.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 1:04 am
by spike
Matters wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol. When i was in the military i had to take part in a new anthrax vaccine trial. I wasn’t given a choice. Stop crying about the COVID vaccine you pussies
That’s great, we’re not talking about the military.

You signed away many of your rights when you joined and honestly I greatly respect you for that. It doesn’t mean other people who didn’t join should also be forced to give up some of those rights.
Can you believe he lived to tell the tale?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 1:07 am
by B
Generally, heathcare worker policies are written without religious or medical exemptions, because the point is the minimize the risk of infection for high risk patients. You don't get to put Mr. Jones and risk because God wants you to bear the risk of disease without assistance. They usually offer to put the worker into a lower risk position in lieu of dismissal.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 1:21 am
by Matters
spike wrote:
Matters wrote:
spike wrote:Healthcare workers having to get vaccinated makes sense. If you can’t exempt yourself for medical or religious reasons, you’re basically implying you’re anti-vax, which throws into question your whole belief system around modern medicine. Which is worrisome given your profession of choice.
Modern medicine is based on so much more than simply a system of belief centered around vaccinations. My goodness. Additionally it should be very clear by now theres’s a big difference between being anti-vax and being anti covid (or flu) shots.
That’s not what I said at all.
So the belief system around modern medicine is based on vaccinations but modern medicine itself isn’t?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 10:57 am
by Bi_3
Maybe hold off on getting your kids the boosters team:

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/sc ... rna-shots/

McKernan, who provided expert advice on the case, agrees that the DNA contamination in the mRNA vaccines fits the Australian legal definition of a GMO. But there is also a second component of the mRNA vaccines that fits the definition.

That’s the mRNA itself, which is actually modified RNA wrapped in lipid nanoparticles (LNPs). The case argues that this ‘LNP-mod-RNA complex’ falls under the legal definition of a GMO and that, like the DNA contamination, it has the capacity to enter the cell nucleus and integrate into the human genome.

There is already at least one peer-reviewed scientific paper demonstrating that the Pfizer Covid vaccine mRNA can enter the human liver cell line and reverse transcribe into DNA in vitro (meaning in a lab dish).

Other studies cited in the case materials show the presence of spike protein mRNA in the nucleus of human cells, and evidence that acquired immune traits pass down to the offspring of mice pre-exposed to the Covid vaccine mRNA-LNP platform. This is suggestive that, once in the nucleus, the vaccine mRNA can be transferred and integrated with chromosomal DNA.


Given that Pfizer backed off getting approval in India when the Indian government refused to change their laws to indemnify them, this is getting suspicious.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 4:52 pm
by blueviper
Bi_3 wrote:Maybe hold off on getting your kids the boosters team:

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/sc ... rna-shots/

McKernan, who provided expert advice on the case, agrees that the DNA contamination in the mRNA vaccines fits the Australian legal definition of a GMO. But there is also a second component of the mRNA vaccines that fits the definition.

That’s the mRNA itself, which is actually modified RNA wrapped in lipid nanoparticles (LNPs). The case argues that this ‘LNP-mod-RNA complex’ falls under the legal definition of a GMO and that, like the DNA contamination, it has the capacity to enter the cell nucleus and integrate into the human genome.

There is already at least one peer-reviewed scientific paper demonstrating that the Pfizer Covid vaccine mRNA can enter the human liver cell line and reverse transcribe into DNA in vitro (meaning in a lab dish).

Other studies cited in the case materials show the presence of spike protein mRNA in the nucleus of human cells, and evidence that acquired immune traits pass down to the offspring of mice pre-exposed to the Covid vaccine mRNA-LNP platform. This is suggestive that, once in the nucleus, the vaccine mRNA can be transferred and integrated with chromosomal DNA.


Given that Pfizer backed off getting approval in India when the Indian government refused to change their laws to indemnify them, this is getting suspicious.
Not saying this could be the case, but just presenting a counter article

https://www.chop.edu/news/feature-artic ... does-part3

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 5:06 pm
by B
Dr. Paul Offit, Director of the Vaccine Education Center vs. Kevin McKernan, the weed genome guy

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 5:48 pm
by Bi_3
those two links are discussing very different things, also Offit suggests boosters are not needed: https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/faustfiles/100026

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 5:51 pm
by blueviper
my link does discuss the intracellular reverse transcription of the in vitro liver cells (It's three items down)


And no, I'm not a molecular biologist, but I did sleep at a holiday inn last night.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 6:18 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 6:22 pm
by B
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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 6:28 pm
by Bi_3
blueviper wrote:my link does discuss the intracellular reverse transcription of the in vitro liver cells (It's three items down)


And no, I'm not a molecular biologist, but I did sleep at a holiday inn last night.

My read of the link I posted was about contamination of the vaccines, but I do see where that would get misleading given that the articles dives into some fear-mongering further down.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu October 26, 2023 4:42 am
by Matters
95% of Americans haven’t bothered taking the latest covid booster.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu October 26, 2023 7:04 pm
by Peeps
Matters wrote:95% of Americans haven’t bothered taking the latest covid booster.

i regret not taking it. friday night slight tickle in my throat. got chills monday night, cough, congestion lasted until tuesday evening. was going to go into work wed and took a test to be safe. positive.

i feel like i have been hit be a truck. ears are plugged and zero energy

worse than 2020 when i had it at christmas

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri October 27, 2023 4:26 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:
Matters wrote:95% of Americans haven’t bothered taking the latest covid booster.

i regret not taking it. friday night slight tickle in my throat. got chills monday night, cough, congestion lasted until tuesday evening. was going to go into work wed and took a test to be safe. positive.

i feel like i have been hit be a truck. ears are plugged and zero energy

worse than 2020 when i had it at christmas

Dont feel too bad, Fauci just got it again and he had the real vaccines.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri October 27, 2023 4:28 pm
by tommy
Bi_3 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
Matters wrote:95% of Americans haven’t bothered taking the latest covid booster.

i regret not taking it. friday night slight tickle in my throat. got chills monday night, cough, congestion lasted until tuesday evening. was going to go into work wed and took a test to be safe. positive.

i feel like i have been hit be a truck. ears are plugged and zero energy

worse than 2020 when i had it at christmas

Dont feel to bad, Fauci just got it again and he had the real vaccines.
But how sick did he get?