Red Mosquito

The studio version of Leatherman is fun.

Huh

This was actually a better song than I remember. I'll have to move this up from the sub basement to the basement.

It segues into Pilate nicely on the GTF single, too.

it was kinda fun.

Oh wow, I think stip and I are having a moment.

if not for you Spenno, I never would have gotten here.


Now my pearl jam rankings are all fucked up

stip wrote:Now my pearl jam rankings are all fucked up

Back to the auto-ranker, huh?

i would but the girls just got up 30 minutes early. life beckons...

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:The "shades go down" crawl to the close on Daughter is nice, too.

Daughter is a fade out, right?

Not really; the instruments get sparer and sparer until the drums are just tapping, and the music is just left with that acoustic riff on one string (?) and a handclap.

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.

I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad

Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.

I love a cold, hard ending.

darth_vedder wrote:

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.

I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad

Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.

I love a cold, hard ending.

Oh good, someone got it!

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.

I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad

Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.

I love a cold, hard ending.

Oh good, someone got it!

I be he did!

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

harmless wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.

I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad

Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.

I love a cold, hard ending.

Oh good, someone got it!

I be he did!

"Leatherman" is probably the closest Pearl Jam have ever come to writing a genuine folk song--part family history, part myth-making bullshit, topically it's one of very few instances of Eddie simply absorbing a snippet (or multiple snippets) of random trivia and translating it into song just for the sake of the story. Eddie really likes his songs to have meanings and messages and this one doesn't have anything resembling either, yet because of the gaps our brains must fill in on their own in order to process what the distant past (the 1880's for instance) must have been like, it has this dusty sense of mystery to it that I've always found unlike anything else in their catalog. It's folk music of the "Fables of the Reconstruction" variety.

Lament wrote:

harmless wrote:I love a cold, hard ending.

What are the best endings in the catalog?

Rearviewmirror jumps to mind for me. Last Exit too.

Blood

Jeremy is a damn good ending. Especially live with Dave A.

Leatherman is a rad song.

Well, I still feel like the title track is one of the band's all time classics. Hearing the Buffalo bootleg has reinforced it for me.

Loved it first time I heard it!!!!

Hate the fade out on the recorded version . Not sold on the quick start as opposed to how the do it live .

Matt needs to be more prominent in the beginning of this song .

Got Some wrote:Loved it first time I heard it!!!!

Hate the fade out on the recorded version . Not sold on the quick start as opposed to how the do it live .

Matt needs to be more prominent in the beginning of this song .

The jam at the end is definitely a live highlight--shame they do the quick fade.

I think I also prefer the way Matt rides the kick live on the second verse (the "always something, never nothing" part), as opposed to the soft, syncopated drumming on the studio version.

I hate Matt's 'thump-thump-thump-thump' on the bass drum and ride, in any song, but especially this one. I still think the song itself is OK though.