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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
Tom Clancy?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:44 pm
by McParadigm
Clancy Brown

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:46 pm
by BurtReynolds
That guy would be an awesome spymaster.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:47 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:
Dan Rather

Watergate is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime, until maybe now. It was the closest we came to a debilitating Constitutional crisis, until maybe now. On a 10 scale of armageddon for our form of government, I would put Watergate at a 9. This Russia scandal is currently somewhere around a 5 or 6, in my opinion, but it is cascading in intensity seemingly by the hour. And we may look back and see, in the end, that it is at least as big as Watergate. It may become the measure by which all future scandals are judged. It has all the necessary ingredients, and that is chilling.

When we look back at Watergate, we remember the end of the Nixon Presidency. It came with an avalanche, but for most of the time my fellow reporters and I were chasing down the story it rumbled along with a low-grade intensity. We never were quite sure how much we would find out about what really happened. In the end, the truth emerged into the light, and President Nixon descended into infamy.

This Russia story started out with an avalanche and where we go from here no one really knows. Each piece of news demands new questions. We are still less than a month into the Trump Presidency, and many are asking that question made famous by Tennessee Senator Howard Baker those many years ago: "What did the President know, and when did he know it?" New reporting suggests that Mr. Trump knew for weeks. We can all remember the General Michael Flynn's speech from the Republican National Convention - "Lock her up!" in regards to Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton had done one tenth of what Mr. Flynn had done, she likely would be in jail. And it isn't just Mr. Flynn, how far does this go?

The White House has no credibility on this issue. Their spigot of lies - can't we finally all agree to call them lies - long ago lost them any semblance of credibility. I would also extend that to the Republican Congress, who has excused away the Trump Administration's assertions for far too long.

We need an independent investigation. Damn the lies, full throttle forward on the truth. If a scriptwriter had approached Hollywood with what we are witnessing, he or she would probably have been told it was way too far-fetched for even a summer blockbuster. But this is not fiction. It is real and it is serious. Deadly serious. We deserve answers and those who are complicit in this scandal need to feel the full force of justice.
Dan Rather is exactly fucking right. Spot-on right.

And fuck you Rand Paul.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:54 pm
by BurtReynolds
Rand Paul is merely disappointing. Fuck Dan Rather, amirite guys? Amirite?!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:56 pm
by Norah
burt

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:58 pm
by Strat
Dan Rather is a national fucking treasure and burt needs to shut the fuck up

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 9:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
Mr. "Third Place in the Ratings" needs to crawl back under whatever rock he hid under when he got fired for making up fake news.

#WorsethanHitler

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 10:01 pm
by Jorge
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 10:02 pm
by wease
That shirt is the tits.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 10:03 pm
by Strat
Not bad.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 10:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
B looks kinda like auron from final fantasy 10

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:23 pm
by McParadigm
Reuters:
Exclusive: U.S. arrests Mexican immigrant in Seattle covered by Obama program

U.S. authorities have arrested an immigrant from Mexico who was brought to the United States illegally as a child and later given a work permit during the Obama administration in what could be the first detention of its kind under President Donald Trump.

Daniel Ramirez Medina, a 23-year-old with no criminal record, was taken into custody last week at his father's home in Seattle by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. The officers arrived at the home to arrest the man's father, though court documents did not make clear the reason the father was taken into custody.

Ramirez, now in custody in Tacoma, Washington, was granted temporary permission to live and work legally in the United States under a program called the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, established in 2012 by Democratic President Obama, according to a court filing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:30 pm
by McParadigm
Real question: what happens if Flynn decides that he's in legal danger?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:43 pm
by dimejinky99
McParadigm wrote: Real question: what happens if Flynn decides that he's in legal danger?

What does he know and what how far will he go in revealing it?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote: Real question: what happens if Flynn decides that he's in legal danger?

What does he know and what how far will he go in revealing it?
He'll spill it all once he's looking at a treason charge.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:47 pm
by Rangi Guy
tragabigzanda wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote: Real question: what happens if Flynn decides that he's in legal danger?

What does he know and what how far will he go in revealing it?
He'll spill it all once he's looking at a treason charge.
Or....Trump will have him taken out before he can spill anything

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:48 pm
by BurtReynolds
These guys always get pardoned.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:49 pm
by bune
tragabigzanda wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote: Real question: what happens if Flynn decides that he's in legal danger?

What does he know and what how far will he go in revealing it?
He'll spill it all once he's looking at a treason charge.
Do we even bother trying to go after people for treason anymore? Or is that sedition that's hard to prove?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 11:53 pm
by dimejinky99
He could bring the whole game down. Who's responsible for the questioning and pursuit of truth here?
Look to me like everyone's either afraid of trumps administration or out to get them no matter what. So it's flawed either way in terms of truth.