Red Mosquito

Matters wrote:

B wrote:

Matters wrote:

B wrote: 2/3 of Americans never got sick.

This is a Goebbels level lie.

Were never confirmed to have gotten sick?

I was using CDC's suspected cases (150,000,000), which is 150% of the confirmed cases.
Unless you think the estimate should be 400% of confirmed cases, but I can't really carry on a conversation if you're going to just make shit up.

If I misread your statement, forgive me. Can anyone in their real world experience, as far as what they actually saw happen to everyone around them, believe that 2/3 of Americans never got sick from Covid?

oasisfan35 wrote:

Matters wrote:

B wrote:

Matters wrote:

B wrote: 2/3 of Americans never got sick.

This is a Goebbels level lie.

Were never confirmed to have gotten sick?

I was using CDC's suspected cases (150,000,000), which is 150% of the confirmed cases.
Unless you think the estimate should be 400% of confirmed cases, but I can't really carry on a conversation if you're going to just make shit up.

If I misread your statement, forgive me. Can anyone in their real world experience, as far as what they actually saw happen to everyone around them, believe that 2/3 of Americans never got sick from Covid?

Yes.
Depending on how wide you want to throw the net time-wise, I worked two jobs in the height of it both in service and of the 40ish employees we had four tested positive.

Matters wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

Matters wrote:

B wrote:

Matters wrote:

B wrote: 2/3 of Americans never got sick.

This is a Goebbels level lie.

Were never confirmed to have gotten sick?

I was using CDC's suspected cases (150,000,000), which is 150% of the confirmed cases.
Unless you think the estimate should be 400% of confirmed cases, but I can't really carry on a conversation if you're going to just make shit up.

If I misread your statement, forgive me. Can anyone in their real world experience, as far as what they actually saw happen to everyone around them, believe that 2/3 of Americans never got sick from Covid?

Yes.
Depending on how wide you want to throw the net time-wise, I worked two jobs in the height of it both in service and of the 40ish employees we had four tested positive.

You’re saying that only 1/3 or less of all the people you know got sick from covid?

Self wrote:goebbels level lie lol...jesus fucking christ, some people

Matters wrote:

Self wrote:goebbels level lie lol...jesus fucking christ, some people

It’s a joke from Curb dude.

B wrote: This is a Goebbels level joke.

Matters wrote:FDA intends to put most serious warning on COVID vaccines, CNN reports

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-12-12/

"Unless the FDA announces it, any claim about what it will do is pure speculation," U.S. Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson Andrew Nixon said about the plans to include the warning.

Rangi Guy wrote:

Matters wrote:FDA intends to put most serious warning on COVID vaccines, CNN reports

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-12-12/

"Unless the FDA announces it, any claim about what it will do is pure speculation," U.S. Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson Andrew Nixon said about the plans to include the warning.

Matters wrote:From the famous Leana Wen article in the Washington Post in 2023 when the state of Massachusetts began differentiating between deaths “from” COVID and deaths “with” COVID.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ercounting

Quotes from doctors in that state:

-90 percent of patients diagnosed with covid are actually in the hospital for some other illness.

-Since every hospitalized patient gets tested for covid, many are incidentally positive. A gunshot victim or someone who had a heart attack, for example, could test positive for the virus, but the infection has no bearing on why they sought medical care.

-If these patients die, covid might get added to their death certificate along with the other diagnoses. But the coronavirus was not the primary contributor to their death and often played no role at all.

-In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with covid were primarily attributed to the virus.

-During some days, the proportion of those hospitalized because of covid were as low as 10 percent of the total number reported.

Monkey_Driven wrote:6 years running on trying to avoid this thread as much as possible.

Simple Torture wrote:

lvc wrote:Tell me that the vaccine makes you less sick that you would have been? That’s a hypothetical that is still impossible to prove.

B wrote:

lvc wrote:Tell me that the vaccine makes you less sick that you would have been? That’s a hypothetical that is still impossible to prove.

I'm curious why you think that.

There's 5 years of test cohorts at this point with less incidences of illness, hospitalizations, and death than their placebo and/or unvaccinated peers.

spike wrote:

B wrote:

lvc wrote:Tell me that the vaccine makes you less sick that you would have been? That’s a hypothetical that is still impossible to prove.

I'm curious why you think that.

There's 5 years of test cohorts at this point with less incidences of illness, hospitalizations, and death than their placebo and/or unvaccinated peers.

I’m guessing he skipped out of high school science a lot.

epilogue wrote:

spike wrote:

B wrote:

lvc wrote:Tell me that the vaccine makes you less sick that you would have been? That’s a hypothetical that is still impossible to prove.

I'm curious why you think that.

There's 5 years of test cohorts at this point with less incidences of illness, hospitalizations, and death than their placebo and/or unvaccinated peers.

I’m guessing he skipped out of high school science a lot.

Before the vaccine I had it. And it was awful. Since getting the vaccine and all the available boosters, I have not had it. In my personal experience, the vaccine made me less sick than I would have been.