Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu February 13, 2025 8:22 am
An American with balls.

I would ask you back, is there any point at which UKR does give up occupied territory?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Haha wtf dude? How is he right? Oh, sorry the Russians are exhausted after invading another country. Yeah, totally, Ukraine should give up land and we should all just be happy it stopped. Don't you think that is a little obtuse?
While this is dripping with classic Burt facetiousness, even if we back off, we are also basically telling the Russians this is ok. Are you ok with that? I didn't take you for a commie, Burt. Also, if we back off and Russia movies further in to eastern europe, you still ok with not being the world police? Where is the line where you say "ok, maybe we should stop them before it gets too far out of control"?BurtReynolds wrote:We have to fund Ukraine forever because they are in the right and America is responsible for the well being everyone on earth. We're bad people if we don't spend all our money taking care of everyone and fight the bad guys all over the planet. If we don't, we're Russian. If we aren't the world police to keep all these barbarians acting right, then they are doomed! It's our special burden.
I bet you supported going in to Iraq because of WMD, didn't you?BurtReynolds wrote:We have to fund Ukraine forever because they are in the right and America is responsible for the well being everyone on earth. We're bad people if we don't spend all our money taking care of everyone and fight the bad guys all over the planet. If we don't, we're Russian. If we aren't the world police to keep all these barbarians acting right, then they are doomed! It's our special burden.
I think if this war has taught me anything, it's that - win or lose - the Russian military is a joke with no hope of rolling into Europe. They've been exposed as a paper tiger, and their nosediving demographics aren't going to let them improve. I'd be more worried about china rolling into eastern Russia. I doubt Russia could do much to stop them.E.H. Ruddock wrote:While this is dripping with classic Burt facetiousness, even if we back off, we are also basically telling the Russians this is ok. Are you ok with that? I didn't take you for a commie, Burt. Also, if we back off and Russia movies further in to eastern europe, you still ok with not being the world police? Where is the line where you say "ok, maybe we should stop them before it gets too far out of control"?BurtReynolds wrote:We have to fund Ukraine forever because they are in the right and America is responsible for the well being everyone on earth. We're bad people if we don't spend all our money taking care of everyone and fight the bad guys all over the planet. If we don't, we're Russian. If we aren't the world police to keep all these barbarians acting right, then they are doomed! It's our special burden.
Finding out it was bullshit was pretty much why i left the militaryBurtReynolds wrote:I think if this war has taught me anything, it's that - win or lose - the Russian military is a joke with no hope of rolling into Europe. They've been exposed as a paper tiger, and their nosediving demographics aren't going to let them improve. I'd be more worried about china rolling into eastern Russia. I doubt Russia could do much to stop them.E.H. Ruddock wrote:While this is dripping with classic Burt facetiousness, even if we back off, we are also basically telling the Russians this is ok. Are you ok with that? I didn't take you for a commie, Burt. Also, if we back off and Russia movies further in to eastern europe, you still ok with not being the world police? Where is the line where you say "ok, maybe we should stop them before it gets too far out of control"?BurtReynolds wrote:We have to fund Ukraine forever because they are in the right and America is responsible for the well being everyone on earth. We're bad people if we don't spend all our money taking care of everyone and fight the bad guys all over the planet. If we don't, we're Russian. If we aren't the world police to keep all these barbarians acting right, then they are doomed! It's our special burden.
I'm not ok with empires invading other countries, but at the same time, that doesn't mean we are responsible for stopping every aggressive invader on earth. If Europe is so worried about it, they can move some of their tax money over from their generous welfare programs (subsidized by the US military) and start spending on defense.
And I was kind of on the fence before the Iraq war. Finding out it was bullshit was wake up call. Were you for it?


