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stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:How come 'Getaway' has no production bells and whistles or extra instrumentation? Maybe that's why most people are liking it so much. Everything else has BoB all over it.

I think everything he does on LB is fantastic. Swallowed whole sounds really good too. And the stuff in sirens sounds appropriate for the style--if I have a beef there it's with the style, and that's not BoB

Well, I'm pretty sure it's BoB's influence. I'm fairly sure BoB would've softened the intent of the "dark Pink Floyd sound" while helping him arrange it. But I try not to think about that and enjoy the song for what it is.

perhaps. Thus far I have no real beefs with anything BoB did on this record except perhaps the two fadeouts--some of sirens excess, maybe, but I don't know what's him

I 'blame' him for eddies voice being too loud and sounding like its sitting ontop of the music. I thought the same this about backspacer too, and that quote about having eddie good and loud leads me to believe thats mostly his doing.

I know that doesn't bother everybody though.

It won't bother me too much unless Ed's voice ever distorts, which happens a couple of times on the leak but hopefully not on the final thing unless it's ever deliberate.

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:How come 'Getaway' has no production bells and whistles or extra instrumentation? Maybe that's why most people are liking it so much. Everything else has BoB all over it.

I think everything he does on LB is fantastic. Swallowed whole sounds really good too. And the stuff in sirens sounds appropriate for the style--if I have a beef there it's with the style, and that's not BoB

Well, I'm pretty sure it's BoB's influence. I'm fairly sure BoB would've softened the intent of the "dark Pink Floyd sound" while helping him arrange it. But I try not to think about that and enjoy the song for what it is.

perhaps. Thus far I have no real beefs with anything BoB did on this record except perhaps the two fadeouts--some of sirens excess, maybe, but I don't know what's him

I 'blame' him for eddies voice being too loud and sounding like its sitting ontop of the music. I thought the same this about backspacer too, and that quote about having eddie good and loud leads me to believe thats mostly his doing.

I know that doesn't bother everybody though.

it doesn't bother me on the two songs we've heard. I can see it on getaway and some of the other songs, but it doesn't bother me too much. I really need to hear the better sounding copies to know for sure

I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

MYM, Getaway LTRP and sirens all end with a bridge or chorus repeated twice. Is this a new thing? or am i only noticing because im looking at these lyrics alot? I can't think of any older songs (of thiers obviously) that do this. It pretty much ruins MYM and LTRP for me because i don't like said choruses and i gotta hear em twice in a row. And it ruins the momentum of the song.

They may have been doing this is forever but i cant really think of any.

Yeah I've noticed. Well, whether you like that or not, I'd rather that happen than the giant noodly guitar solo which does nothing but fill in the space another verse would take up, a la Porch.

I think i'd rather they just end the song . If they're not gonna use a different verse or something, it feels like they're extending the song for the sake of it.

That's another thing where I get a hint of BoB's influence. "Add another chorus, all good songs have a repeated chorus, it's a typical convention and means we'll be able to sell it." I agree with you it's particularly noticeable on MYM because that "chorus" is weaker. Sirens to a lesser extent although it can stand it because it's longer. There's a point on Sirens I wish it would end and then it starts up again... ah well.

the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

stupidmop wrote:I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

That's also my biggest complaint right now.

harmless wrote: I'm wondering if these remaining tracks will drastically alter the record as a whole.

I think and hope so. We have the poppiest songs right now and Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and MFS will act as a counter weight to these. Well, it seems that way from the decriptions we have and I might be totally wrong.

I think the MYM chorus lacks something but I don't know what, therefore it can stay and I like it enough. My favourite parts of the song are the verses, the solo and the call and response outro.

stip wrote:the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

If by best you mean worst then yes!

Mike wrote:

stupidmop wrote:I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

That's also my biggest complaint right now.

harmless wrote: I'm wondering if these remaining tracks will drastically alter the record as a whole.

I think and hope so. We have the poppiest songs right now and Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and MFS will act as a counter weight to these. Well, it seems that way from the decriptions we have and I might be totally wrong.

Prepare yourself for a fail...

We'll be alright, whatever happens. Life will go on.

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

If by best you mean worst then yes!

If they wanted a melodic part in MYM it could've been much better; it's just *there*. I guess some people feel like that about the LTRP chorus, which I like quite a bit.

harmless wrote:

Mike wrote:

stupidmop wrote:I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

That's also my biggest complaint right now.

harmless wrote: I'm wondering if these remaining tracks will drastically alter the record as a whole.

I think and hope so. We have the poppiest songs right now and Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and MFS will act as a counter weight to these. Well, it seems that way from the decriptions we have and I might be totally wrong.

Prepare yourself for a fail...

But I don't want to! No one can take my optimism!

Mike wrote:

harmless wrote:

Mike wrote:

stupidmop wrote:I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

That's also my biggest complaint right now.

harmless wrote: I'm wondering if these remaining tracks will drastically alter the record as a whole.

I think and hope so. We have the poppiest songs right now and Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and MFS will act as a counter weight to these. Well, it seems that way from the decriptions we have and I might be totally wrong.

Prepare yourself for a fail...

But I don't want to! No one can take my optimism!

Nobody but my band is allowed to do that!

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

If by best you mean worst then yes!

no, that was, in fact, not what I meant

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

If by best you mean worst then yes!

If they wanted a melodic part in MYM it could've been much better; it's just *there*. I guess some people feel like that about the LTRP chorus, which I like quite a bit.

I haaate that melody reminds me of blink 182 or sum 41 or some other band with numbers in the name. And it tosses out the anger in the previous part for some kinda hippie 'could be bigger than ourselves' message that i admit i don't get . And for the life of me all i see when i hear 'may not solve a mystery right round the corner' is ed jumping into the mystery machine to catch some badguys.

And the LTRP one is just weirdly overly happy considering the rest of the song is about some dude drinking himself stupid. I'd like it a little more if i could believe it was purposefully happy because thats what the drunks thinking and he's off his head. But it really sounds like Ed believes the 'feeling is healing' or whatever and again i just hate the actual melody. And the end of the song goes chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus-cool outro, but i've turned the song off before i got to the cool outro.

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:the bridge/second chorus in MYM is the best part of the song!

If by best you mean worst then yes!

If they wanted a melodic part in MYM it could've been much better; it's just *there*. I guess some people feel like that about the LTRP chorus, which I like quite a bit.

I haaate that melody reminds me of blink 182 or sum 41 or some other band with numbers in the name. And it tosses out the anger in the previous part for some kinda hippie 'could be bigger than ourselves' message that i admit i don't get . And for the life of me all i see when i hear 'may not solve a mystery right round the corner' is ed jumping into the mystery machine to catch some badguys.

And the LTRP one is just weirdly overly happy considering the rest of the song is about some dude drinking himself stupid. I'd like it a little more if i could believe it was purposefully happy because thats what the drunks thinking and he's off his head. But it really sounds like Ed believes the 'feeling is healing' or whatever and again i just hate the actual melody. And the end of the song goes chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus-cool outro, but i've turned the song off before i got to the cool outro.

Whether you like it or not, I think the "solution" (chorus) is set against the "problem" (verse) in both songs. So that contrast in lyrics *and* music is deliberate. If you like it, it sounds clever; if you don't, it... doesn't. But the blues verse goes glam in LTRP (which fits the "red dress" bit -- that's what I'm hearing, not "records"). It goes all "We love to boogie" basically. And I also think of Scooby Doo in that part of MYM, and I'm also reminded of pop-punk. But I think the song tries for that and generally succeeds. The album as a whole isn't really calling for a full-on Brain of J, unfortunately. It's as close to that as possible while still being open to BoB's other audiences.

And all of a sudden, everything reminds me of Lightning Bolt, the album http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/#.Uj7ZyFP17Ik

groetjes,
Mirella

Mirella wrote:And all of a sudden, everything reminds me of Lightning Bolt, the album http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/#.Uj7ZyFP17Ik

groetjes,
Mirella

stupidmop wrote:I just prefer when eds voice blends in with the music i guess, kind of sits in it and isnt always the loudest part. IDK.

MYM, Getaway LTRP and sirens all end with a bridge or chorus repeated twice. Is this a new thing? or am i only noticing because im looking at these lyrics alot? I can't think of any older songs (of thiers obviously) that do this. It pretty much ruins MYM and LTRP for me because i don't like said choruses and i gotta hear em twice in a row. And it ruins the momentum of the song.

They may have been doing this is forever but i cant really think of any.

that's not uncommon. in hiding, nothingman, last exit, i am mine.. i'm sure there are many more.