Dark Matter (song)

[Val]

That name has a Romanian ring to it.

What's your thing with Romania Val?

I have a “thing” with Romania?

[E.H. Ruddock]

Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?

If people have issue with sound quality, isn’t that about the music?

[Jaeti]

Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?

If people have issue with sound quality, isn’t that about the music?

Uh oh.

[E.H. Ruddock]

i am certainly capable of enjoying something more or less with better production but the songwriting and performances are so far ahead in terms of what matters to me.

this x 1000%

I grew up exchanging cassette tapes and mixes of shitty recordings of punk, rock, metal, funk bands all throughout middle school. You ever listen to a tape that had 10 different albums recorded on it? Even when those crappy tapes started to get all warbly and hissy, that didn't detract from my ability to determine which bands I really connected with. As someone that now writes and records and mixes music as a hobby, I find most of this hand wringing tiresome. You either like a song or you don't... and if you don't, then why obsess over production minutiae?

Totally.

The focus on production isn’t the focusedness that people need to be focused on.

Big no-no.

You would have hated the original avocado album thread

[E.H. Ruddock]

Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?

If people have issue with sound quality, isn’t that about the music?

Uh oh.

I’m just a mod trying to figure out what would be best for the discussion around here

[Birds in Hell]

Talking about why someone does not enjoy this song is okay! This does not have to lessen anyones enjoyment of this song! This is all okay and good!

Same old thing every new album cycle. Wouldn't high-fiving each other about how much the song rules get boring after a while?

Talking about the things people don't enjoy about the song, and identifying how and why, is an interesting conversation, or at least has the potential to be - arguably more interesting than the alternative.

I like hearing criticisms of music I love because it leads me to examine the basis for my own views and sometimes come out with a richer and more nuanced appreciation for the work in question.

The criticism is the valuable stuff.

[bodysnatcher]

Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?

If people have issue with sound quality, isn’t that about the music?

Uh oh.

I’m just a mod trying to figure out what would be best for the discussion around here

Anything in between here [holds hands about two feet apart] in the groupthink

[Birds in Hell]

Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?

If people have issue with sound quality, isn’t that about the music?

Uh oh.

I’m just a mod trying to figure out what would be best for the discussion around here

I don't think you should split the thread.

[oneway23]

Discussing the song should mean every facet of the song, no?
Simple, really.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Talking about why someone does not enjoy this song is okay! This does not have to lessen anyones enjoyment of this song! This is all okay and good!

Same old thing every new album cycle. Wouldn't high-fiving each other about how much the song rules get boring after a while?

Talking about the things people don't enjoy about the song, and identifying how and why, is an interesting conversation, or at least has the potential to be - arguably more interesting than the alternative.

I like hearing criticisms of music I love because it leads me to examine the basis for my own views and sometimes come out with a richer and more nuanced appreciation for the work in question.

The criticism is the valuable stuff.

Well said

[bodysnatcher]

That’s gonna be hilarious if that Sergio guy actually shows up

[Val]

The focus on production isn’t the focusedness that people need to be focused on.

Big no-no.

You would have hated the original avocado album thread

Pretty sure I was an RMer long before Avocado.
Never mind the new “join date”.

[E.H. Ruddock]

The focus on production isn’t the focusedness that people need to be focused on.

Big no-no.

You would have hated the original avocado album thread

Pretty sure I was an RMer long before Avocado.
Never mind the new “join date”.

Then you should remember the endless pages of bitching about the production on that album. This is nothing in this thread!

[stip]

Who remembers how much people hated riot act?

[Val]

Who remembers how much people hated riot act?

I remember a lot of people loving it

[Birds in Hell]

On production, I don't think it sounds great and it's definitely not my preferred style of rock production, however I think it sounds better than either Backspacer or Lightning Bolt.

This at least has a cohesive aesthetic - radio ready glossy modern rock - and does what it sets out to do, whereas both of those records just sound awful.

[Buby]

That name has a Romanian ring to it.

What's your thing with Romania Val?

I have a “thing” with Romania?

I withdraw my question. My bad.
I thought you also meant Romanian by "rooskie" a few pages back on the other thread.

[stip]

Who remembers how much people hated riot act?

I remember a lot of people loving it

I mean, compared to Lightning Bolt, sure. But there was a large and unhappy group of RMers not pleased with it. Some (many?) came around

[Val]

That name has a Romanian ring to it.

What's your thing with Romania Val?

I have a “thing” with Romania?

I withdraw my question. My bad.
I thought you also meant Romanian by "rooskie" a few pages back on the other thread.

No worries

[oneway23]

Who remembers how much people hated riot act?

I remember a lot of people loving it

I mean, compared to Lightning Bolt, sure. But there was a large and unhappy group of RMers not pleased with it. Some (many?) came around

RA is probably a highlight in their catalog, production wise. Think it was more the "Ed sounding like he was watching his dog get run over time & time again" energy in the vocals, and his seeming inability to open his mouth more than 20% of the way.