Election 2016
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Go on...BurtReynolds wrote:They are alike in some ways, not in others. Trump is worse, but Clinton only looks good in comparison. She's a loathsome human being.Strat wrote:somebody explain to me why hillary is as bad as trump, or why she is so hated. I know being a lifelong politician is gross, but come on. These two people are nothing alike
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I won't go as far as Burt, but I think I can explain my distaste of (and at least some others' problems with) Clinton this way: while there are many, many policy issues that I agree with Clinton on, there's a sense in this country that our political system is out of whack in many ways--some think it's completely broken, others think it's just stalled, but lots of people--hey, including me!--would like an injection of something fresh to shock the system and see how things settle. Does a politician who's been involved in executive-level politics for a majority of the time since 1991 seem like the sort of person who's going to do this? It's the same sort of wave Trump is riding, in a sense. And there are also serious issues the country is facing--whether they be economic, social, or Jew--that I'm sure Clinton is aware of, but after listening to her speak about a dozen times in this cycle, I'm not so sure how she plans to face them. Even though lots of Sanders' ideas are pie-in-the-sky--in the sense that they'd require a willing-to-compromise Congress that he would never have--at least he picks some signature policies and explains how he'd implement them. What's Clinton's campaign "about" except that she wants to be president?BurtReynolds wrote:They are alike in some ways, not in others. Trump is worse, but Clinton only looks good in comparison. She's a loathsome human being.Strat wrote:somebody explain to me why hillary is as bad as trump, or why she is so hated. I know being a lifelong politician is gross, but come on. These two people are nothing alike
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It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."
That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.
That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.
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Re: Election 2016
Trump is going to make people forget how much we hate Hilary Clinton.
Please consider voting for me
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oh yeah I'm definitely not saying they are anywhere near equally bad.McParadigm wrote:It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."
That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.
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Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.
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do you think she's a good person?Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.
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I mean, she is probably responsible for more deaths than Trump at this point.
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Did Trump vote to invade Iraq? I can't remember.
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I love the idea of instant run off voting. Sign me up.tragabigzanda wrote:I got really into the idea of Instant Runoff Voting around 2004. Krist Novoselic of all people was doing a book tour on the concept. It's a smart, practical approach, but not one I think will ever upend the current system.cutuphalfdead wrote:I can see something like this being a good system.turned2black wrote:I like the idea of a more compact primary season with regions that would rotate on who would hold their primaries first. (It would be kinda cool to see a state like California actually matter).
Then popular vote in the general.
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Yes. I think she is ultimately a good human. She is a lifetime politician looking for the next head to step on to get elected, but i think she is a good human being.BurtReynolds wrote:do you think she's a good person?Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.
I truly believe Donald Trump is a horrible human being. Its not just shtick.
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It is amazing that someone who spent 25 years as a real life public figure blend of Vince McMahon and Wario has found so much wind in his political sails. I don't remember a time when Trump wasn't seen as a joke...until he ran for president.BurtReynolds wrote:oh yeah I'm definitely not saying they are anywhere near equally bad.McParadigm wrote:It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."
That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.
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I bet Hillary has done worse things than Trump.
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Oh strat, you poor naive sweet handsome fool.Strat wrote:Yes. I think she is ultimately a good human. She is a lifetime politician looking for the next head to step on to get elected, but i think she is a good human being.BurtReynolds wrote:do you think she's a good person?Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.
I truly believe Donald Trump is a horrible human being. Its not just shtick.
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Hilary is just more of the same. Trump is a wild card. It's exciting.
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Yeah. He's like doing meth for the first time.tommymtcom wrote:Hilary is just more of the same. Trump is a wild card. It's exciting.
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