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BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:somebody explain to me why hillary is as bad as trump, or why she is so hated. I know being a lifelong politician is gross, but come on. These two people are nothing alike

They are alike in some ways, not in others. Trump is worse, but Clinton only looks good in comparison. She's a loathsome human being.

Go on...

Don't fear change, guys. Embrace it.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:somebody explain to me why hillary is as bad as trump, or why she is so hated. I know being a lifelong politician is gross, but come on. These two people are nothing alike

They are alike in some ways, not in others. Trump is worse, but Clinton only looks good in comparison. She's a loathsome human being.

I won't go as far as Burt, but I think I can explain my distaste of (and at least some others' problems with) Clinton this way: while there are many, many policy issues that I agree with Clinton on, there's a sense in this country that our political system is out of whack in many ways--some think it's completely broken, others think it's just stalled, but lots of people--hey, including me!--would like an injection of something fresh to shock the system and see how things settle. Does a politician who's been involved in executive-level politics for a majority of the time since 1991 seem like the sort of person who's going to do this? It's the same sort of wave Trump is riding, in a sense. And there are also serious issues the country is facing--whether they be economic, social, or Jew--that I'm sure Clinton is aware of, but after listening to her speak about a dozen times in this cycle, I'm not so sure how she plans to face them. Even though lots of Sanders' ideas are pie-in-the-sky--in the sense that they'd require a willing-to-compromise Congress that he would never have--at least he picks some signature policies and explains how he'd implement them. What's Clinton's campaign "about" except that she wants to be president?

It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."

That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.

Trump is going to make people forget how much we hate Hilary Clinton.

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McParadigm wrote:It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."

That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.

oh yeah I'm definitely not saying they are anywhere near equally bad.

Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.

Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.

do you think she's a good person?

I mean, she is probably responsible for more deaths than Trump at this point.

Did Trump vote to invade Iraq? I can't remember.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:

turned2black wrote:I like the idea of a more compact primary season with regions that would rotate on who would hold their primaries first. (It would be kinda cool to see a state like California actually matter).

Then popular vote in the general.

I can see something like this being a good system.

I got really into the idea of Instant Runoff Voting around 2004. Krist Novoselic of all people was doing a book tour on the concept. It's a smart, practical approach, but not one I think will ever upend the current system.

I love the idea of instant run off voting. Sign me up.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.

do you think she's a good person?

Yes. I think she is ultimately a good human. She is a lifetime politician looking for the next head to step on to get elected, but i think she is a good human being.

I truly believe Donald Trump is a horrible human being. Its not just shtick.

BurtReynolds wrote:

McParadigm wrote:It is pretty remarkable that Clinton has never had momentum, or volume, or even media attention at her back. It's pretty blatantly a game of "let's gift Hillary the nomination."

That said, I learned my lesson about the folly of "these candidates are equally bad" in the 2000 election, thanks.

oh yeah I'm definitely not saying they are anywhere near equally bad.

It is amazing that someone who spent 25 years as a real life public figure blend of Vince McMahon and Wario has found so much wind in his political sails. I don't remember a time when Trump wasn't seen as a joke...until he ran for president.

I bet Hillary has done worse things than Trump.

Strat wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:Look, im a bernie supporter but to put Hilary on par with Trump is absurd and i see it happening.

do you think she's a good person?

Yes. I think she is ultimately a good human. She is a lifetime politician looking for the next head to step on to get elected, but i think she is a good human being.

I truly believe Donald Trump is a horrible human being. Its not just shtick.

Oh strat, you poor naive sweet handsome fool.

Hilary is just more of the same. Trump is a wild card. It's exciting.

tommymtcom wrote:Hilary is just more of the same. Trump is a wild card. It's exciting.

Yeah. He's like doing meth for the first time.