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Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 1:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
Nacho Nacho man! I wanna be, a Nacho man!

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 1:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 1:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
Gilligan does quite a lot of visual story telling and I don't find that easy to follow myself

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:02 pm
by Ensign9
The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:07 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:08 pm
by Ensign9
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:10 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:One question about the first two eps:
Spoiler: show
Why did Lalo kill the friendly goat farmers? Just misplaced rage from what went down at his house? Or something else?
There was some nuance to what happened but it explains why investigators thought Lalo was dead
Spoiler: show
Lalo asks the woman how the guy was after his dental surgery and she reveals Lalo paid for it, which means he had a dental record match patsy. This is why he tells him to leave the stache and soul patch
That guy’s sole existence was to unknowingly serve as his dead body double in a situation like this.
JFC ok that’s clever and you’re smart. But come on Gilligan, throw me a bone here!
It was right there!
Spoiler: show
When it showed the guy after his shave and Lalo’s face was right over his shoulder was a pretty big clue.
It’s been a long week!
I’ll give you that.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:30 pm
by spike
Ensign9 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.
they also made it clear that the salamanca family owns the police, so why go to the trouble?

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:32 pm
by VinylGuy
Its not just for the police guys, its also for Fringe. Or mostly for Fringe.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 3:12 pm
by Jorge
Trag I am begging you to pay attention to this show

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 3:59 pm
by Mecca
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.
they also made it clear that the salamanca family owns the police, so why go to the trouble?
Always have a backup plan

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:25 pm
by blueviper
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mecca wrote:
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.
they also made it clear that the salamanca family owns the police, so why go to the trouble?
Always have a backup plan
And yet Gus knows before the end of the episode that Lalo's still alive. I'll grant that maybe I missed something obvious, but it seems to me like a rare fumble of a plot point by VG: It's not really explained very clearly, and the net payoff is either A) some confusion for us dumber viewers, or B) it doesn't even matter 25 minutes later. Weird.
Gus knows because Hector shook his hand. Hector would never shake his hand. So Gus knew something was up.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:33 pm
by blueviper
tragabigzanda wrote:
blueviper wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mecca wrote:
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.
they also made it clear that the salamanca family owns the police, so why go to the trouble?
Always have a backup plan
And yet Gus knows before the end of the episode that Lalo's still alive. I'll grant that maybe I missed something obvious, but it seems to me like a rare fumble of a plot point by VG: It's not really explained very clearly, and the net payoff is either A) some confusion for us dumber viewers, or B) it doesn't even matter 25 minutes later. Weird.
Gus knows because Hector shook his hand. Hector would never shake his hand. So Gus knew something was up.
Yes I did understand this. But it's just a lot of silly mechanics (the dental records/shave and a haircut stuff) for something that doesn't seem to be actually driving the plot one iota.
I guess you just have to go with it. The one thing about movies/tv shows is that writers can write in anything to account for any contingency. Need Lalo to be "dead"? Have a farmer with similar looks and fake teeth just in case.

Hector getting a call from Lalo and Lalo telling him he's going to take out Fring, probably gave Hector renewed vigor to be friendly to Gus that one time, shaking his hand because he knew Gus would be dead soon. Gus catches on to that and puts the pieces together. Seems more well thought out (writing wise) then the drug lord has a loner body on hand.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:34 pm
by Ms Harmless
tragabigzanda wrote:
blueviper wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mecca wrote:
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:The dentist callout was a pretty big clue.
But how would that even work? Did they get a set of falsies shaped like Lalo’s teeth?
No, Lalo had his own dental records replaced with a copy of that guy's after the work was done.
they also made it clear that the salamanca family owns the police, so why go to the trouble?
Always have a backup plan
And yet Gus knows before the end of the episode that Lalo's still alive. I'll grant that maybe I missed something obvious, but it seems to me like a rare fumble of a plot point by VG: It's not really explained very clearly, and the net payoff is either A) some confusion for us dumber viewers, or B) it doesn't even matter 25 minutes later. Weird.
Gus knows because Hector shook his hand. Hector would never shake his hand. So Gus knew something was up.
Yes I did understand this. But it's just a lot of silly mechanics (the dental records/shave and a haircut stuff) for something that doesn't seem to be actually driving the plot one iota.
agreed

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:35 pm
by blueviper
Also, there's a ton of silly stuff that goes on in this show and Breaking Bad.

With the amount of spying and keeping tabs on people, you think Mike and those other two guys that work for Fring never sleep. They are literally everywhere at anytime, when the story dictates it.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:36 pm
by Ms Harmless
I'm still watching because I love most things about this show, but I do think it shows off instead of simply conveying information sometimes

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 4:37 pm
by Ms Harmless
blueviper wrote:Also, there's a ton of silly stuff that goes on in this show and Breaking Bad.

With the amount of spying and keeping tabs on people, you think Mike and those other two guys that work for Fring never sleep. They are literally everywhere at anytime, when the story dictates it.
I kinda loved all that "I can't I'm with my family" stuff with Mike, they just gave up on it