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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:10 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
It's really not that great, bub

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:28 pm
by tree_
My friend Roger Ebert and I strongly disagree with you.

"Kill Bill: Volume 1 shows Quentin Tarantino so effortlessly and brilliantly in command of his technique that he reminds me of a virtuoso violinist racing through "Flight of the Bumble Bee" -- or maybe an accordion prodigy setting a speed record for 'Lady of Spain.'"

"Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill, Volume 2" is an exuberant celebration of moviemaking, coasting with heedless joy from one audacious chapter to another, working as irony, working as satire, working as drama, working as pure action. I liked it even more than 'Kill Bill, Volume 1.'"

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:34 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:My friend Roger Ebert and I strongly disagree with you.

"Kill Bill: Volume 1 shows Quentin Tarantino so effortlessly and brilliantly in command of his technique that he reminds me of a virtuoso violinist racing through "Flight of the Bumble Bee" -- or maybe an accordion prodigy setting a speed record for 'Lady of Spain.'"

"Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill, Volume 2" is an exuberant celebration of moviemaking, coasting with heedless joy from one audacious chapter to another, working as irony, working as satire, working as drama, working as pure action. I liked it even more than 'Kill Bill, Volume 1.'"
its been awhile since I've watched them but remember adoring them.

There are some people that despise QT here.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:40 pm
by epilogue
Roger Ebert was basically the human equivalent of the Rotten Tomatoes audience score.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:41 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:My friend Roger Ebert and I strongly disagree with you.

"Kill Bill: Volume 1 shows Quentin Tarantino so effortlessly and brilliantly in command of his technique that he reminds me of a virtuoso violinist racing through "Flight of the Bumble Bee" -- or maybe an accordion prodigy setting a speed record for 'Lady of Spain.'"

"Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill, Volume 2" is an exuberant celebration of moviemaking, coasting with heedless joy from one audacious chapter to another, working as irony, working as satire, working as drama, working as pure action. I liked it even more than 'Kill Bill, Volume 1.'"
Appeal to authority, not a good look

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:42 pm
by run2death
The big fight scene in KB1 is really terrible.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 9:43 pm
by VinylGuy
I like them both. Basically a greatest hits movie of QT love for references.

Probably the last time i really liked a movie from him.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:18 pm
by LoathedVermin72
God I hate Roger Ebert

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:21 pm
by BurtReynolds
He never seemed to be consistent with how he reviewed movies. I found most of his reviews to be useless.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:22 pm
by JuanHamm
Roger Ebert was the only reviewer I ever liked.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:24 pm
by LoathedVermin72
He was a shitty writer with boring opinions who pretty much never offered insight. Also was prone to dumb anti-horror puritanism. And his terrible TV show laid the foundation for Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic and all that other horrible shit.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:25 pm
by JuanHamm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:He was a shitty writer with boring opinions who pretty much never offered insight. Also was prone to dumb anti-horror puritanism. And his terrible TV show laid the foundation for Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic and all that other horrible shit.
I give this comment two thumbs down

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:25 pm
by VinylGuy
fuck critics

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
VinylGuy wrote:fuck critics
*most critics

There are a few good ones out there. A good critic is just as valuable as a good artist (because they are an artist).

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:29 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:fuck critics
*most critics

There are a few good ones out there. A good critic is just as valuable as a good artist (because they are an artist).
yup

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:32 pm
by run2death
People who hate critics are about as mindful and intelligent as people who hate "the media."

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:32 pm
by VinylGuy
dont really care for them.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
I disagree that good critics approach art criticism as artists. It's a craft. The few that are good you will never hear about because they don't pretend they are artists. Most critics are useless because they think they are artists.


Or worse, they are moralizing ideologues masquerading as art critics and using art from actual creative people to push their bullshit. That's most reviewers these days.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:38 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I love good film criticism. People discount it because so much of it is garbage, but for me, there’s nothing quite like reading a well-written, thoughtful, insightful analysis.

I’ve always loved what Irvin Kershner said about Pauline Kael (I wish I could remember the full quote): “She helps me see my films.”

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 10:40 pm
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:I disagree that good critics approach art criticism as artists. It's a craft. The few that are good you will never hear about because they don't pretend they are artists. Most critics are useless because they think they are artists.


Or worse, they are moralizing ideologues masquerading as art critics and using art from actual creative people to push their bullshit. That's most reviewers these days.
I didn’t say they consciously approach it as art; I said they’re artists. It just flows from them naturally as art. Good criticism doesn’t just mean explaining whether you like or dislike something - it means writing good prose, it means having a point of view and being able to express it meaningfully. That’s an art.