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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:07 am
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:a lot has been said about how this thing is tracked, but I love it; there's a definitive "ending" of the more rhythmic and "danceable" (not necessarily all "upbeat") songs in "Buckle Up" - and a real irony in that title, because when it's over, the album gives way to an encore-like acoustic song that asks us to sit still and chill a while; then Retrograde is about beauty and awe; and River Cross is about where we've been, and where we're going, after having thought this was the end - it's the semi-colon in the sentence; a lot of people have also talked about how long this album takes to wind down (three songs, really, maybe even four); but that's hitting me too, in the sense that it supports the album's conclusion: there were points where I honestly thought it was all over, the end, I couldn't go on anymore; but, quite by accident, here I am, still fighting, still trying to build some sort of a future, which will surely contain even more endings, more false starts (like the album's first dud bass note), more endings again - this is an album about being still alive, and it doesn't drop the ball on that purpose
As a conceptual album, I think it's one of their stronger efforts. Not as deliberately effective as, say, Vs or Riot Act, but much stronger than Yield or Lightning Bolt in how the overall package work to deliver a core concept...

But for me, there's also no denying that the sequencing is problematic. I want to listen to this thing pretty loud, and so I've got ear fatigue by the time I get to the final stretch. I've re-tracked it in a way that makes it much easier for me to get all the way through.
what was your retracking?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:18 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:20 am
by Donald
The tail-end of pretty much all these songs is really strong!

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:50 am
by Tuolumne
If i were to retrack this, I'd maybe make River Cross the opener and Retrograde the closer. I feel like this album might have deserved the quiet solemn opener setup that No Code and Riot Act had. The rocker opener sort of says "okay, let's go!" ... but this album feels like we're settling in for a more solemn ride ...

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:53 am
by 96583UP
elliseamos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:a lot has been said about how this thing is tracked, but I love it; there's a definitive "ending" of the more rhythmic and "danceable" (not necessarily all "upbeat") songs in "Buckle Up" - and a real irony in that title, because when it's over, the album gives way to an encore-like acoustic song that asks us to sit still and chill a while; then Retrograde is about beauty and awe; and River Cross is about where we've been, and where we're going, after having thought this was the end - it's the semi-colon in the sentence; a lot of people have also talked about how long this album takes to wind down (three songs, really, maybe even four); but that's hitting me too, in the sense that it supports the album's conclusion: there were points where I honestly thought it was all over, the end, I couldn't go on anymore; but, quite by accident, here I am, still fighting, still trying to build some sort of a future, which will surely contain even more endings, more false starts (like the album's first dud bass note), more endings again - this is an album about being still alive, and it doesn't drop the ball on that purpose
As a conceptual album, I think it's one of their stronger efforts. Not as deliberately effective as, say, Vs or Riot Act, but much stronger than Yield or Lightning Bolt in how the overall package work to deliver a core concept...

But for me, there's also no denying that the sequencing is problematic. I want to listen to this thing pretty loud, and so I've got ear fatigue by the time I get to the final stretch. I've re-tracked it in a way that makes it much easier for me to get all the way through.
For how long the album is, I genuinely feel like it moves very quick.
this is true

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 3:59 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 4:01 am
by 96583UP
tragabigzanda wrote:I've left out SBWM.

Who Ever Said
Never Destination
Alright
Retrograde
DOTC
Take The Long Way
Quick Escape
Comes Then Goes
7:00
Buckle Up
River Cross
I think that's extreme

WES
SBWM
DOTC
Quick Escape
Alright
Seven O'Clock

is totally fine

and the first 4 should never be listened to except in that order (no standalone listening permitted!)

back half is where the work is needed:

Never Destination Of the Earth (ultra-awesome re-tooled Josh Evans version)
Take the Long Way (TURND UP BASS)
Buckle Up
Comes Then Goes
Retrograde
River Cross (NO ACCOMPANIMENTS)

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 4:04 am
by LoathedVermin72
This is the tracklist I've been listening to:

1. Who Ever Said
2. Dance of the Clairvoyants
3. Quick Escape
4. Alright
5. Buckle Up
6. Never Destination
7. Seven O'Clock
8. Take the Long Way
9. Comes Then Goes

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 4:46 am
by Ledbetter14
Who Ever Said
Take The Long Way
Quick Escape
Alright
Seven O’Clock
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Buckle Up
Superblood Wolfmoon
Retrograde
Comes Then Goes
Never Destination
River Cross

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 4:51 am
by Hypnos
For me, this is the recomendable retrack:

1. Who Ever Said
2. Superblood Wolfmoon
3. Quick Escape
4. Alright
5. Seven O'Clock
6. Never Destination
7. Take the Long Way
8. Buckle Up
9. Comes Then Goes
10. Retrograde
11. Dance of the Clairvoyants
12. River Cross

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 4:54 am
by LoathedVermin72
If your retracked version includes Superblood and Retrograde I don't fw it

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 5:07 am
by C4lukin
So is 7 am great or bad, or simply average?

After a dozen listens I still do not know.

The lyrics are very direct, very Bruce, but Eddie is capable of better.

I love the music though. But the song is super cheesy, It not as cheesy as Leash, or Sirens, or a dozen other PJ songs where they are good outside of the lyrics.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 5:13 am
by C4lukin
dimejinky99 wrote:None of you have had sex in a long time.
Says the person who’s entire existence is based on trolling an unofficial Pearl Jam message board.

A single band of all bands.. Tens of thousands of posts, hating on Pearl Jam. And it is daily, it is not like every once in awhile.

Time to move on.

Participate in something you love. I guarantee that it is much more rewarding then shitting on something you dislike.

Or pretending that you are important, because a reviewer of the new album let you listen early from the bottom of their phone. Do you think anyone bought that bull shit?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 5:29 am
by Monkey_Driven
C4lukin wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:None of you have had sex in a long time.
Says the person who’s entire existence is based on trolling an unofficial Pearl Jam message board.

A single band of all bands.. Tens of thousands of posts, hating on Pearl Jam. And it is daily, it is not like every once in awhile.

Time to move on.

Participate in something you love. I guarantee that it is much more rewarding then shitting on something you dislike.

Or pretending that you are important, because a reviewer of the new album let you listen early from the bottom of their phone. Do you think anyone bought that bull shit?
Just visit the SW sub forum.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 5:45 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
This album is a masterpiece.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 6:58 am
by Antelope
I think the sequencing makes sense within the context of the vinyl. Four songs per side. Maybe I’m in the mood for slower songs... the four songs on Side C make sense. Etc.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 7:19 am
by dimejinky99
Ms Harmless wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
bluestate wrote:Well, this is what I learned so far

chud: "7 o'clock sounds like Sirens"

spenno: "Quick Escape is too noisy"

dime: "You'll be horrified to find out DotC is the only good song on Gigaton"

Long time posters whose opinions can't be trusted anymore
From everything I've read, dime seems to adore this record, for the most part. Shouldn't speak on their behalf...could be wrong
that quote is from before it came out, when Dime claimed he'd heard it and everything sucked except for DOTC

Didn’t say it sucked. Said we’d heard all this before which we have in the most part*and it was stodgy meaning usual Pj midtempoitis. If these are the ones I heard. Not sure they are.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 7:22 am
by dimejinky99
C4lukin wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:None of you have had sex in a long time.
Says the person who’s entire existence is based on trolling an unofficial Pearl Jam message board.

A single band of all bands.. Tens of thousands of posts, hating on Pearl Jam. And it is daily, it is not like every once in awhile.

Time to move on.

Participate in something you love. I guarantee that it is much more rewarding then shitting on something you dislike.

Or pretending that you are important, because a reviewer of the new album let you listen early from the bottom of their phone. Do you think anyone bought that bull shit?
I don’t think you’ve read all my posts :)
I barely mention Pj on this board and haven’t in a very long time.
Thanks tho. And I really couldn’t give a flying fiddlers fuck what you believe tbh.
But sure go ahead and share your wisdom
Oprah would be proud.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 8:05 am
by WtOB?
bit of back and forth here.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 8:11 am
by C4lukin
WtOB? wrote:bit of back and forth here.
I am done. I will not spend another moment of my life on this discussion after I press send here.