Red Mosquito

1. Who Ever Said
2. Superblood Wolfmoon
3. Quick Escape
4. Take the Long Way
5. Buckle Up
6. Alright
7. Seven O'Clock

I'm really into SBWM right now

The only moment i can't stand is that a way too much keys on the album, too much.

taffer wrote:1. Who Ever Said
2. Superblood Wolfmoon
3. Quick Escape
4. Take the Long Way
5. Buckle Up
6. Alright
7. Seven O'Clock

I'm really into SBWM right now

The only moment i can't stand is that a way too much keys on the album, too much.

SBWMs intro makes it sound throwaway? But when it builds up a head of steam it’s a stonker but I wouldn’t have put it track 2. Somewhere in the back half like supersonic was

Well, everyone has talked about gigaton here for the best and worst reasons, by the way.
In these 29 years that have passed, 11 albums and so many concerts played, I think that all fans have the right to say what goes on in their soul. I like it that way, I don't like it that way, this song is similar to that one, that one with that one and so on. I think it's perfectly stupid to make analogies regarding gigaton and all the other albums. They are all completely different, recorded and produced at different times, with a completely different spirit and what goes on inside their homes only they know. We always discussed the same thing at the end of each album, they could have tried harder, Ed's lyrics are never perfect for anyone and we are always waiting for the next album to be perfect. But here I leave the question, what will be a perfect pearl jam album?
I can't describe what a perfect album is for me, and I've been an unconditional fan for many years, but I also tell you, I'm always waiting for it to arrive.
As for gigaton, I have read many criticisms of those musicologists who write in specialized magazines and general magazines, but forgive me many of them say a lot of shit. They do not know what they are writing, why they are writing (someone sent them) and many of them do not even know music, and there are also those who have never liked pearl jam, but have to write and from these we cannot expect great positive reviews .
Don't be so negative in relation to the band and its capabilities, for me gigaton is an excellent album, due to its musicality and lyrical side, as many have already mentioned, it combines with the tragic time that we are going through and after waiting so many years for a new album I've heard it so many times and still haven't got tired.
Continue with your discussions in the forum are always a good reason for reflection.
Hug,
HL.

welcome to the board

tragabigzanda wrote:I've left out SBWM.

Who Ever Said
Never Destination
Alright
Retrograde
DOTC
Take The Long Way
Quick Escape
Comes Then Goes
7:00
Buckle Up
River Cross

playing through this. hit or miss for me (but given all the interstial transitions this may be a hard one to retrack), but Long Way into Quick Escape works really well!

tragabigzanda wrote:I've left out SBWM.

Who Ever Said
Never Destination
Alright
Retrograde
DOTC
Take The Long Way
Quick Escape
Comes Then Goes
7:00
Buckle Up
River Cross

Quick Escape into Alright is one of the best moments of the album!

Revising my rankings after some gardening yesterday evening. I've decided there are no slogs.

Favorites:
Seven O'Clock
Dance of the C's
Superblood Wolfmoon
Buckle Up

Easy Jams:
Alright
Comes Then Goes
Who Ever Said
Quick Escape

Getting to know:
Never Destination
River Cross
Retrograde
Take the Long Way Home

Love:

Who ever said
Dotc
Quick escape
Alright
Take the long way
Buckle up
River cross


Like:

Sbwm
7:00
Never Destination
Comes then goes


Not sure about:

Retrograde

Looks like this will be debuting at #3 on Billboard 200 behind The Weeknd and 500 Seconds of Summer

Ms Harmless wrote:this album is firmly the best thing they've done since Riot Act, but that and everything before it is immovable for me

Having spent a few days on this album, I think this is my view now. I'm very happy with the record. I honestly didn't think they had something like this in them anymore. But any comparison to the holy Ten -> Riot Act stretch fails massively. And that's not even a bad thing.

Whoever Said
Dance
7 o'clock
Retrograde
River Cross

probably my favourites for now.

Very much looking forward to the (any minute now going to be cancelled) Euro tour.

Antelope wrote:I think the sequencing makes sense within the context of the vinyl. Four songs per side. Maybe I’m in the mood for slower songs... the four songs on Side C make sense. Etc.

I hadn't thought of it this way. Fair point.

My version of Gigaton is 9 songs long. It keeps the same order of songs but omits "Superblood Wolfmoon" (which I think is bad) "Comes Then Goes" (which I think is boring) and "Retrograde" (which I think is not good enough to justify its place on the tracklist).

The resulting album is 41 minutes long and a lot more focused, consistent and concise.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/58MIU ... 3TINT0yVEA

SuperBlood Wolfmoon went from meh to really fucking fun for me. I really like all the turns the song have and the tasty solo.

SONG RANKINGS

Totally restored my faith in the band:
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Alright
Take the Long Way
Buckle Up

You Know They're Back Because the Deep Cuts are Good Again
Who Ever Said
Seven O'Clock
Never Destination
Comes Then Goes
River Cross

"Logical Extension of Lightning Bolt"
Superblood Wolfmoon
Retrograde

theplatypus wrote:My version of Gigaton is 9 songs long. It keeps the same order of songs but omits "Superblood Wolfmoon" (which I think is bad) "Comes Then Goes" (which I think is boring) and "Retrograde" (which I think is not good enough to justify its place on the tracklist).

The resulting album is 41 minutes long and a lot more focused, consistent and concise.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/58MIU ... 3TINT0yVEA

My version of the album keeps the same order too, but just dumps the last two songs. "Retrograde" and "River Cross" both feel like consolidations of modern PJ's weaknesses to me, and send the album off in a way that is too similar to "Yellow Moon" > "Future Days" for my liking. I like the idea of "Comes Then Goes" ending this very nuanced and meticulously-produced album on a kind of unassuming, solitary rumination.

Not all of the remaining 10 are perfect, but the program of them does play through pretty satisfyingly.

Tuolumne wrote:If i were to retrack this, I'd maybe make River Cross the opener and Retrograde the closer. I feel like this album might have deserved the quiet solemn opener setup that No Code and Riot Act had. The rocker opener sort of says "okay, let's go!" ... but this album feels like we're settling in for a more solemn ride ...

I've wondered if River Cross might be used as a show opener.

littlecomment wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:If i were to retrack this, I'd maybe make River Cross the opener and Retrograde the closer. I feel like this album might have deserved the quiet solemn opener setup that No Code and Riot Act had. The rocker opener sort of says "okay, let's go!" ... but this album feels like we're settling in for a more solemn ride ...

I've wondered if River Cross might be used as a show opener.

I hope they use it as a closer. But it might be an opener yeah, i think Ed used it as a opener in his shows.

Comes then Goes has never felt boring to me, which surprises me for a six minute acoustic song. I think it flows perfectly and I’m always taken aback by how quickly it flies by.

i think the slow opener from gigaton will be alright. similar feel as pendulum. i dont think river cross works as a pj opener. its almost too slow, and not much band participation. i dont see all 5 guys coming out and eddie sitting behind a pump organ to start the show. its a 1st encore song.

River cross is a touching song. The last minute continues to give me goose bumps but personally I think if Eddie and the music were to fade and the choir keeps singing for an extra minute or as I like the organ breakdown at the end because it reminds me of something akin to the Beatles let the song close like that and then a reprise/ fade in to the choir singing the chorus for another half minute. Maybe I’m crazy, thoughts?