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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Mon March 30, 2020 11:49 pm
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:isnt retrograde a Mike song?
Yes.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:09 am
by Kalevi
Someone said this already. QE into alright is the best part of the album

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:10 am
by Hatfield
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:I just fucking love this album. I have a few friends that I once got to share in the excitement and wonder of pearl jam. Concerns, albums, all the things.

They have moved on from Rock music in general so i dont think they even care to listen to this album and that makes me sad.

But, life goes on.

I have RM.
:heartbeat: I love it too, man. So much. And it came at the perfect time.
We got it guys! This is what we've been hoping for, for years! I told myself this wasn't possible, but here we are and Pearl Jam is perfecting past musical ideas and expanding what their capable of.

Sadly, my three closest PJ friends (toured all over the country with one of them) have turned into conservative talk radio listeners and have either lost their musical hearts or are just brainwashed that anything from left can't be good. I'm working on one of them really hard right now and I think he will come around, but it still makes me sad for them, and for me. Glad I get to read all of RM's excitement. Keep posting!

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:16 am
by Tuolumne
A couple of things to do discuss:

I finally got the vinyl order, such a fun experience opening it up with my kids. They loved seeing the package get unwrapped and sat and listened with me for awhile.

Retrograde showed the biggest leap in quality when I listened on vinyl. No explanation why, but the layers of the song came through and the emotional lift really worked.

Buckle Up .... weirdo PJ tune .... Stone are you okay? Need someone to talk to? This is some kind of a sadistic song. Could've been written for the movie Joker. What the fuck? Somebody go check on Stone, dude is kinda demented. Have we talked about this?

Comes Then Goes .... again, brilliance ... there are tears inside me that haven't been released ... yet.

The recent Josh Evans interview substantiated my theory into reality - the band over the last few records would take a song and rework it, make it more efficient and propulsive whereas on Gigaton they left the original inspiration of the songs in tact. It's just a choice. I thought they more than nailed it on Backspacer. But .. again .. they worked hard on those records and took a fine tooth comb to make them efficient songs. Gigaton is loose.

I feel like I'm still getting used to the first 2 tracks. Coming off of Lightning Bolt, where the first 2 tracks absolutely floored me from the first listens, these 2 kinda challenge me. There's not always an easy thing to latch onto, so in that sense it does serve as a setup for the album.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:20 am
by dprival78
when 'who ever said' clicks for you.. it's gonna be badass

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:25 am
by spike
mikejasond wrote:The biggest flaw on the album is Eddie's "HEEEEEEE" in seven O-clock
I’ve always hated the hee heeeeeees, but Seven O Clock is so good that it overcomes them.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:27 am
by wease
Speaking of Seven O’Clock, does he actually say Five O’Clock to open the song?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:31 am
by Birds in Hell
wease wrote:Speaking of Seven O’Clock, does he actually say Five O’Clock to open the song?
Uh, no.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:31 am
by wease
My only complaint is that the font in the liner notes and lyrics is so small. These guys are older than I am and I can barely even make most of it out. I know those old bastards can’t see any of it.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:31 am
by wease
Birds in Hell wrote:
wease wrote:Speaking of Seven O’Clock, does he actually say Five O’Clock to open the song?
Uh, no.
Obviously, I need to relisten. I’ve only heard it once.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:34 am
by epilogue
Finally got my vinyl. Better late than never.

My Side D etching says "Is This You?"

I fucking love it.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:40 am
by Kevin Davis
Revelator wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:My CD came today and I'm listening on headphones now -- no question this album is an overwhelmingly more impactful experience when you're listening to it in an uncompromised format. I'm up through "Take the Long Way" and even the lesser songs are really packing a wallop.
If I may ask, did you order your CD through the 10C? I ordered the vinyl and CD through 10C. My vinyl arrived on Saturday but my CD is still a no show. Was wondering if I should start to worry.

I echo most everyone's positive sentiments on the album after listening through the weekend, hoping to post something more substantial by tmrw.
No, I ordered from Amazon -- I've had pretty bad luck ordering from 10C, probably half my orders from them have been bungled in some way. An email to customer service probably couldn't hurt.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:42 am
by PHATJ
Hatfield wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:I just fucking love this album. I have a few friends that I once got to share in the excitement and wonder of pearl jam. Concerns, albums, all the things.

They have moved on from Rock music in general so i dont think they even care to listen to this album and that makes me sad.

But, life goes on.

I have RM.
:heartbeat: I love it too, man. So much. And it came at the perfect time.
We got it guys! This is what we've been hoping for, for years! I told myself this wasn't possible, but here we are and Pearl Jam is perfecting past musical ideas and expanding what their capable of.

Sadly, my three closest PJ friends (toured all over the country with one of them) have turned into conservative talk radio listeners and have either lost their musical hearts or are just brainwashed that anything from left can't be good. I'm working on one of them really hard right now and I think he will come around, but it still makes me sad for them, and for me. Glad I get to read all of RM's excitement. Keep posting!
I’m a brainwashed conservative talk radio lister too. And I love this album. Nuance.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:43 am
by PHATJ
wease, listen to this fucker about 20 times. It’s great.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 12:45 am
by unLEASHed
unLEASHed wrote:
scrub12 wrote:That Gigaton roundtable from Sirius XM is on demand but holy shit, somehow its 5 HOURS?!?
How can I listen to that?!
Guys, can someone help me, i cant make a subscription on Sirius XM outside of US and the app is not available in my country...did someone record this? is it on spotify or something like that? would really appreciate some help here.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 1:27 am
by Monkey_Driven
My vinyl...

"In the midst of the 6th"

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 1:37 am
by Strat
unLEASHed wrote:
unLEASHed wrote:
scrub12 wrote:That Gigaton roundtable from Sirius XM is on demand but holy shit, somehow its 5 HOURS?!?
How can I listen to that?!
Guys, can someone help me, i cant make a subscription on Sirius XM outside of US and the app is not available in my country...did someone record this? is it on spotify or something like that? would really appreciate some help here.
I promise you’re not missing anything. No new insight whatsoever.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 1:43 am
by 96583UP
lecherouslittlestump wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Gigaton. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of music theory most of the songs will go over a typical listeners head. There's also Matt’s nihilistic drums, which is deftly woven into his beats - his personal rhythm draws heavily from 70s UK ska, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these songs, to realise that they're not just catchy - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Gigaton truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the majesty in Eddie’s existential proclamation "Positve...positive! Positive!," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Eddie Vedder’s genius wit unfolds itself into their ears. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Gigaton tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
lecherouslittlestump wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pearl Jam. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Bulgakov or Bukowski most of the lyrics will go over a typical listeners head. There's also Eddie's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his lyrics - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these lyrics, to realize that they're not just slogans - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Pearl Jam truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the anguish in Eddie's existencial lyric "I'm still alive," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Eddie Vedder's genius unfolds itself on their speakers. What fools... how I pity them. :lol: And yes by the way, I DO have a Stickman tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
lecherouslittlestump wrote: Heh. Let them listen to that pleb shit. If they can't understand something like Of The Girl then they're lost.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pearl Jam. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of musical theory most of the songs will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Eddie's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his lyrics - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these songs, to realize that they're not just fun rockers - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Pearl Jam truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the anguish in an Eddie lyric like "he lit a match and laid in bed" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Eddie's genius unfolds itself on their iPods. What fools... how I pity them. :lol: And yes by the way, I DO have a Stickman tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
mf wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand A Perfect Circle. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical listener’s head. There’s also Maynard’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these songs, to realise that they’re not just music- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike APC truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Maynard’s existential catchphrase “Tugging a rhythm to the vision that's in my head” which itself is a cryptic reference to auto-eroticism. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Billy Howerdel’s genius songwriting unfolds itself in their earbuds. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have an APC tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
BurtReynolds wrote: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 1:47 am
by verb_to_trust
PHATJ wrote:wease, listen to this fucker about 20 times. It’s great.
Sitting bullshit and all?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 31, 2020 1:50 am
by Jorge
96583UP discovers copypasta