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LoathedVermin72 wrote:No way in hell is it a step backwards

Bi_3 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:No way in hell is it a step backwards

Ok, maybe not. But it’s not nearly as good as Django or IB.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

tree_ wrote:Hateful Eight is okay... I have problems with the story, though. What's the point? It feels like QT is just masturbating... which is okay, at times. I really dislike when he 'narrates'. Also, as I stated in in another thread, I have big problems with the lighting. Not sure what they were thinking there.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

They won’t. ACH looks terrible and the La Llorona guy is directing Conjuring 3.

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

They won’t. ACH looks terrible and the La Llorona guy is directing Conjuring 3.

I literally just read who was directing 3 and while I don't feel great about it I also disliked everything Wan did until the first Conjuring. That said Wan had far more than one film under his belt by that point.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

They won’t. ACH looks terrible and the La Llorona guy is directing Conjuring 3.

I literally just read who was directing 3 and while I don't feel great about it I also disliked everything Wan did until the first Conjuring. That said Wan had far more than one film under his belt by that point.

WTF man

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

They won’t. ACH looks terrible and the La Llorona guy is directing Conjuring 3.

I literally just read who was directing 3 and while I don't feel great about it I also disliked everything Wan did until the first Conjuring. That said Wan had far more than one film under his belt by that point.

WTF man

Should I not be reserving judgment until I see the films?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Curse of La Llorona was very boring and bad. Between this and The Nun, I feel like the James Wan era of horror has hit a creative wall. We're ready for something new.

I feel these two efforts have been more cash-grabs than actually expanding the Conjuring (which is apparently a universe now) narrative effectively. I am hopeful that Annabelle Comes Home and The Conjuring 3 kind of right the ship but we shall see.

They won’t. ACH looks terrible and the La Llorona guy is directing Conjuring 3.

I literally just read who was directing 3 and while I don't feel great about it I also disliked everything Wan did until the first Conjuring. That said Wan had far more than one film under his belt by that point.

WTF man

Should I not be reserving judgment until I see the films?

No I meant because you said you didn’t like any pre-conjuring Wan

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tree_ wrote:Hateful Eight is okay... I have problems with the story, though. What's the point? It feels like QT is just masturbating... which is okay, at times. I really dislike when he 'narrates'. Also, as I stated in in another thread, I have big problems with the lighting. Not sure what they were thinking there.

If anything, I think H8 has a lot more on its mind thematically than maybe any other QT movie, and it seems way less masturbatory than what he usually does.

tree_ wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tree_ wrote:Hateful Eight is okay... I have problems with the story, though. What's the point? It feels like QT is just masturbating... which is okay, at times. I really dislike when he 'narrates'. Also, as I stated in in another thread, I have big problems with the lighting. Not sure what they were thinking there.

If anything, I think H8 has a lot more on its mind thematically than maybe any other QT movie, and it seems way less masturbatory than what he usually does.

It all seems so obvious, though. It might be saying a lot but it all feels unnecessary to me, I guess. My wife really likes it. What do you think of the lighting?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tree_ wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tree_ wrote:Hateful Eight is okay... I have problems with the story, though. What's the point? It feels like QT is just masturbating... which is okay, at times. I really dislike when he 'narrates'. Also, as I stated in in another thread, I have big problems with the lighting. Not sure what they were thinking there.

If anything, I think H8 has a lot more on its mind thematically than maybe any other QT movie, and it seems way less masturbatory than what he usually does.

It all seems so obvious, though. It might be saying a lot but it all feels unnecessary to me, I guess. My wife really likes it. What do you think of the lighting?

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHTING

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote: The more I think about the visual choices in this movie, the less sense they make. Why did he shoot in such a grand format? What was the point? Nature can be used to do a lot of things in film - to glorify (or even apotheosize) the world or the human condition, or, conversely, to emphasize the absurdity of the human condition (or behavior or failings) - but QT doesn't seem to be doing...anything with it, really? He certainly isn't glorifying anything, and he enjoys wallowing in the muck of sadistic humor too much to be making an existential point about mankind's place in the world. It just seems like a case of "This is how it looked in my head, so I did it." Which is fine, but ultimately quite shallow. And, this being QT, I'm sure format nostalgia is at play, but even that feels ignorant when QT seems to have no real understanding of how or why better filmmakers of yesteryear used the format in the first place.

This is an endlessly frustrating movie for me. I really don't know how to feel about it.

PS: You should do yourself a favor and familiarize yourself with Lean's work. He's one of the all-time greats.

I agree with parts of this. In some ways the interiors felt more expansive than the scenery, with the distance between each side of the room underlying racial and political divides. I thought Richardson's "bag of tricks" approach (split diopter, rack focus, depth of field) was effective and evocative, and the scenery was pretty enough to look at that I didn't mind the relative redundancy of the format. It is an odd movie though.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I love Insidious though. It’s way better than The Conjuring.