Red Mosquito

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stupidmop wrote:See i would have said that a while back, but i've found a new appreciation for it recently. It's got a kind of melancholy lilt to it.

I can't be friends with it. Everytime I hear that chord progression I keep thinking they were desperately trying to invent another Nothingman but instead produced an overdone song with a needlessly dragging instrumental melody.

McParadigm wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stupidmop wrote:See i would have said that a while back, but i've found a new appreciation for it recently. It's got a kind of melancholy lilt to it.

I can't be friends with it. Everytime I hear that chord progression I keep thinking they were desperately trying to invent another Nothingman but instead produced an overdone song with a needlessly dragging instrumental melody.

Nothingman is melancholic. Low Light is at peace. Nothingman was abandoned. Low Light has its two birds, vanishing together into the distance as they get lost.

Other than being balladesque and both featuring Jeff's sort of approach to chording, I don't see a lot of similarities at all.

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

stupidmop wrote:The only songs that i'd take over yield songs are Johnny Guitar and GSMF and i'd really only take them over In Hiding and Pilate.

No, on both accounts.

Would you take any Backspacer songs over any yield songs?

Lounge Lizard wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stupidmop wrote:See i would have said that a while back, but i've found a new appreciation for it recently. It's got a kind of melancholy lilt to it.

I can't be friends with it. Everytime I hear that chord progression I keep thinking they were desperately trying to invent another Nothingman but instead produced an overdone song with a needlessly dragging instrumental melody.

Nothingman is melancholic. Low Light is at peace. Nothingman was abandoned. Low Light has its two birds, vanishing together into the distance as they get lost.

Other than being balladesque and both featuring Jeff's sort of approach to chording, I don't see a lot of similarities at all.

Well, you don't, I do, and what now?

Strat wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stupidmop wrote:See i would have said that a while back, but i've found a new appreciation for it recently. It's got a kind of melancholy lilt to it.

I can't be friends with it. Everytime I hear that chord progression I keep thinking they were desperately trying to invent another Nothingman but instead produced an overdone song with a needlessly dragging instrumental melody.

Nothingman is melancholic. Low Light is at peace. Nothingman was abandoned. Low Light has its two birds, vanishing together into the distance as they get lost.

Other than being balladesque and both featuring Jeff's sort of approach to chording, I don't see a lot of similarities at all.

Well, you don't, I do, and what now?

You feel immense shame for being wrong!

stip wrote:

LikeLukin wrote:The big thing for me that puts Yield so high above Backspacer is just the perfect feeling I get when I listen to it. Everything about the album just oozes passion and emotion to me. The music is perfect, the instrumentation is perfect, the production is perfect, the lyrics are amazing, and they all complement each other and flow ridiculously well. The whole album just has that amazing feel to it.

Backspacer just turns my stomach, almost right from the start. GSMF is a good garage rocker that I enjoy listening to, but after this it all goes to shit for me. I would even go so far as to say the rest of the album is almost embarrassing. I don't need to get into detail as it has all been exhausted on this board and others before since my complaints are the typical ones regarding lame lyrics, poor production/mixing/mastering, uninspiring musicianship, etc.

I guess my point is that without diving into details and trying to describe why, I just get an amazing feeling from Yield that I don't get from any other album by any other artist. If I'm in a good mood, it multiplies that good mood. If I'm down, it consoles me... I never have any desire to listen to Backspacer whatsoever.

hey if you like yield you like yield. If you don't like backspacer you don't like backspacer.

You're wrong about the lyrics, though.

EJ wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

stupidmop wrote:The only songs that i'd take over yield songs are Johnny Guitar and GSMF and i'd really only take them over In Hiding and Pilate.

No, on both accounts.

Would you take any Backspacer songs over any yield songs?

No, never.

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

Strat wrote:

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

say it with me -


RIP Pj

EJ wrote:

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

Determine when these songs were written and you will then understand why this is true.

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

Determine when these songs were written and you will then understand why this is true.

04-06 right? To be honest i'm suprised there's songs i like so much concocted during the S/T sessions. I figured if they had any unreleased songs i was going to like they'd all be from the 90s. Now i don't know what to think.

digster wrote:

stip wrote:
In fact, I think every song on backspacer except for supersonic and speed of sound is better than in hiding, and I'm not sure about speed of sound.

Whoa now.

EJ wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

Determine when these songs were written and you will then understand why this is true.

04-06 right? To be honest i'm suprised there's songs i like so much concocted during the S/T sessions. I figured if they had any unreleased songs i was going to like they'd all be from the 90s. Now i don't know what to think.

Its probably from the 2004 recording sessions. They worked on a lot of songs for S/T.

melonhead4 wrote: Why no love for Speed of Sound??

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

EJ wrote:

warehouse wrote:so these 2 songs came out right around the time they played 2 new songs live, and ive listened to these 2 songs far more than the new ones. bad sign?

Determine when these songs were written and you will then understand why this is true.

04-06 right? To be honest i'm suprised there's songs i like so much concocted during the S/T sessions. I figured if they had any unreleased songs i was going to like they'd all be from the 90s. Now i don't know what to think.

Its probably from the 2004 recording sessions. They worked on a lot of songs for S/T.

I was gonna say that Ed sounded closer to 06 than 04 (especially on CC) but i can't recall how ed sounded in 04 exactly. Still It's a lot rougher on these songs than in 03, it was still fairly smooth sounding if benaroya is anything to go by. Could just be singing differently though.

Release_Me wrote:Given To Fly, Do The Evolution and probably Wishlist are the only three songs I keep going back to from Yield. And by now I'm quite bored with Wishlist. All three are superior to everything on Backspacer. The rest of the album I rarely listen to. Except for maybe In Hiding or Brain of J when I'm feeling like it. Backspacer I can listen to right the way through and there's not a song I want to skip. Yes, not even Supersonic. I'd take it every day of the week over Pilate, MFC, Low Light, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays and probably FaithFull. I've never felt any sort of connection to either of those songs though I can appreciate what they're trying to do. When you get over the fact that Supersonic is Pearl Jam just being silly/having fun, it's not a bad song at all. If they'd made more than one Supersonic, maybe I wouldn't be ok with it. And yes, I like Speed of Sound on the album. FoN is my favourite off Backspacer. I just don't get the hate. It's the most engaging song they've done in years. Virtually every song is a 3.5 or 4 star song for me. PJ fans can be difficult. I bet you're thinking the same about me