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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:37 pm
by Jorge
oneway23 wrote:Ed sounding like he was watching his dog get run over time & time again
It's a hopeless situation

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:40 pm
by Val
oneway23 wrote:
stip wrote:
Val wrote:
stip wrote:Who remembers how much people hated riot act?
I remember a lot of people loving it
I mean, compared to Lightning Bolt, sure. But there was a large and unhappy group of RMers not pleased with it. Some (many?) came around
RA is probably a highlight in their catalog, production wise. Think it was more the "Ed sounding like he was watching his dog get run over time & time again" energy in the vocals, and his seeming inability to open his mouth more than 20% of the way.
That little yelp during I Am Mine was the most excitement he’d allow himself on the whole album.

Weren’t they still in mourning over Roskilde?

“Lost nine friends we’ll never know…”

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:42 pm
by RockPusher
I love critical discussion. I just think there's a "getting lost in the weeds" aspect to pages and pages about some technical aspect that many of us a) can't hear and/or b) don't really care about as much. That's what Steve Hoffman forums are for, right?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:51 pm
by oneway23
RockPusher wrote:I love critical discussion. I just think there's a "getting lost in the weeds" aspect to pages and pages about some technical aspect that many of us a) can't hear and/or b) don't really care about as much. That's what Steve Hoffman forums are for, right?
Are there not pages and pages of "getting lost in the weeds" over the vocals, the lyrics, the guitars, drums...etc...?
We've filled 99 pages of detritus over a single song....Who decides where the line is on "acceptable conversation"?
Val wrote:Weren’t they still in mourning over Roskilde?
“Lost nine friends we’ll never know…”

Understandably so...I get it. Fair enough.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:56 pm
by RockPusher
oneway23 wrote:Are there not pages and pages of "getting lost in the weeds" over the vocals, the lyrics, the guitars, drums...etc...?
We've filled 99 pages of detritus over a single song....Who decides where the line is on "acceptable conversation"?
Okay I'm not willing to die on this hill. Fair enough.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 8:59 pm
by Birds in Hell
oneway23 wrote:Think it was more the "Ed sounding like he was watching his dog get run over time & time again" energy in the vocals, and his seeming inability to open his mouth more than 20% of the way.
Desperately need Ed to bring this vibe back.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:03 pm
by stip
oneway23 wrote:
stip wrote:
Val wrote:
stip wrote:Who remembers how much people hated riot act?
I remember a lot of people loving it
I mean, compared to Lightning Bolt, sure. But there was a large and unhappy group of RMers not pleased with it. Some (many?) came around
RA is probably a highlight in their catalog, production wise. Think it was more the "Ed sounding like he was watching his dog get run over time & time again" energy in the vocals, and his seeming inability to open his mouth more than 20% of the way.
yeah, it wasnt the production. just fondly remembering album launches past

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:05 pm
by oneway23
stip wrote:yeah, it wasnt the production. just fondly remembering album launches past
I still remember the original board during the Avocado days. The first thing I said when we heard the pre-master leak with the extended "Life Wasted" outro was that Boom had gotten baked, snuck into the studio, and secretly replaced all of Matt's drums with cardboard boxes and his cymbals with cellophane. Fooking tragedy.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:06 pm
by RockPusher
Birds in Hell wrote:Desperately need Ed to bring this vibe back.
He kind of does a couple times in Dark Matter. Of course, so does Homer in the Jorge version.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:10 pm
by Ms Harmless
bodysnatcher wrote:If this thread is a precursor to the larger album thread, just gonna avoid the entire forum when it’s released
I've tried, many times

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:10 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:If this thread is a precursor to the larger album thread, just gonna avoid the entire forum when it’s released
I've tried, many times
A fool's errand, if ever there was....You know that's simply not possible.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:13 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:14 pm
by oneway23
tragabigzanda wrote:I can feel the tide turning today. As much as I’d like to claim some ownership, I prefer to believe that with repeated listens others are starting to realize “Dammit this does kind of make my ears hurt.”
Sure, but, is it supposed to make my pee burn?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:15 pm
by Ms Harmless
tragabigzanda wrote:I can feel the tide turning today. As much as I’d like to claim some ownership, I prefer to believe that with repeated listens others are starting to realize “Dammit Trag does kind of make my ears hurt.”
basically yes

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:17 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:18 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I can feel the tide turning today. As much as I’d like to claim some ownership, I prefer to believe that with repeated listens others are starting to realize “Dammit Trag does kind of make my ears hurt.”
basically yes
Did you know that producers were triggering drum samples as early as 1992 for Dream Theater's Pull Me Under?
tragabigzanda wrote:“Serban Ghanea” does sound like an STD now that you mention it
His mixes are essentially an aural STD, amirite?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:24 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:Did you know that producers were triggering drum samples as early as 1992 for Dream Theater's Pull Me Under?
you're acting like I said it never happens or something

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:25 pm
by Ms Harmless
do I have to enjoy Dream Theatre now?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Mon February 19, 2024 9:26 pm
by elliseamos
Woo, baby!