Red Mosquito

guitar_davey wrote:I'm new here. I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

bluestate wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

Thanks man! I definitely don't want to step on any toes.

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

I don't know if I define lame in the same way as "us all". We're not all programmed or anything. I love the themes, nearly all of the song titles, but from an artistic standpoint, the first four images are by far my favourite. All this "OMG you have different opinion to me? You're dead inside!" is getting really boring.

Sorry, I shouldn't have generalized. I'm new here. I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

I didn't mean to respond negatively either, but people keep joining the board and telling me off... Hey, I've been a fan for 22 years and I'm still here, so they've not totally turned me off yet. But RM certainly has a different culture than that other place, and we freely criticise and analyse this band's every move. So it's ironic that with this PJ track reveal, we seem to be the only ones enjoying it...

guitar_davey wrote:I definitely don't want to step on any toes.

No, please do! I used to but now I've been beaten down too many times. It's always good to get some fresh meat!

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

You'll understand after lurking around here for a few more months.

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

I don't know if I define lame in the same way as "us all". We're not all programmed or anything. I love the themes, nearly all of the song titles, but from an artistic standpoint, the first four images are by far my favourite. All this "OMG you have different opinion to me? You're dead inside!" is getting really boring.

Sorry, I shouldn't have generalized. I'm new here. I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

I didn't mean to respond negatively either, but people keep joining the board and telling me off... Hey, I've been a fan for 22 years and I'm still here, so they've not totally turned me off yet. But RM certainly has a different culture than that other place, and we freely criticise and analyse this band's every move. So it's ironic that with this PJ track reveal, we seem to be the only ones enjoying it...

I think our timing just crisscrossed a bit. I wasn't singling you out at all.

harmless wrote: it's ironic that with this PJ track reveal, we seem to be the only ones enjoying it...

can't be said enough

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

I don't know if I define lame in the same way as "us all". We're not all programmed or anything. I love the themes, nearly all of the song titles, but from an artistic standpoint, the first four images are by far my favourite. All this "OMG you have different opinion to me? You're dead inside!" is getting really boring.

Sorry, I shouldn't have generalized. I'm new here. I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

I didn't mean to respond negatively either, but people keep joining the board and telling me off... Hey, I've been a fan for 22 years and I'm still here, so they've not totally turned me off yet. But RM certainly has a different culture than that other place, and we freely criticise and analyse this band's every move. So it's ironic that with this PJ track reveal, we seem to be the only ones enjoying it...

I think our timing just crisscrossed a bit. I wasn't singling you out at all.

Say "Cheers!" with Molotovs. I'm liking it.

guitar_davey wrote:

bluestate wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:I've been a Pearl Jam fan since the beginning and I'm kind of blown away how strong some people's opinions are about the smallest details of the band's art, lyrics, decision-making process, etc. I'm by no means an apologist for the band, but they've put out a lot of music I like and have seemingly remained very grounded. That's enough for me.

Thanks man! I definitely don't want to step on any toes.

You're not, so post away. Also, a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek here.

bluestate wrote: now I've been beaten down!

that's an unfortunate feeling

blueviper wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

You'll understand after lurking around here for a few more months.

I used to post on the PJ forum, but I've never had a membership--I grew up in Newfoundland, knowing they'd never tour there (oops!!), so the fanclub membership seemed pointless to me. At this point, I'd love to have a crack at tickets earlier than everyone else, but my membership # would be so far down the list now, why bother?

guitar_davey wrote:

blueviper wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

You'll understand after lurking around here for a few more months.

I used to post on the PJ forum, but I've never had a membership--I grew up in Newfoundland, knowing they'd never tour there (oops!!), so the fanclub membership seemed pointless to me. At this point, I'd love to have a crack at tickets earlier than everyone else, but my membership # would be so far down the list now, why bother?

You'll fit right in at RM. The only members we have here are penises.

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

blueviper wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

southp wrote:That just got a bit lame.

It was sort of lame to start with. Definite step down in quality since the first four. Let's see if the last reveal gives us something awesome.

I don't get this sentiment at all. I thought the turntable was great, and the guy preaching to the two dunces was a bit provocative, which I like. This one, to me, seems to be in the same vein as all of them. What I guess I'm saying is that I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

You'll understand after lurking around here for a few more months.

I used to post on the PJ forum, but I've never had a membership--I grew up in Newfoundland, knowing they'd never tour there (oops!!), so the fanclub membership seemed pointless to me. At this point, I'd love to have a crack at tickets earlier than everyone else, but my membership # would be so far down the list now, why bother?

You'll fit right in at RM. The only members we have here are penises.

I'm never above a bit of dick humour!

EJ wrote:a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek here.

Except posts discussing different methods of inflicting pain on BoB

guitar_davey wrote:I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

Crash course on TSIS lameology:

Zombie pyramids
The Fixer video
BoB (being blamed for the songs that PJ now writes)
Ed taking over control
Stone conceding all control
Boom's sausage fingers
Binaural's official tracklisting

That's just the tip of the iceberg

Lounge Lizard wrote:

EJ wrote:a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek here.

Except posts discussing different methods of inflicting pain on BoB

This artwork is giving us a few more ideas. "Hey Brendan, fancy a beer? Catch!"

Lounge Lizard wrote:

EJ wrote:a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek here.

Except posts discussing different methods of inflicting pain on BoB

I have to say, I was disappointed to hear an interview with him recently where he admitted to finally giving up on recording to tape. I wonder if that hasn't contributed to everything since Riot Act sounding a bit tinny (I realize he didn't produce the S/T, but same thing in all likelihood).

I don't see the step down. They may be a bit more obvious in imagery but that's ok considering how complicated iconic and symbolic art can be. Gives a little grounding. The content of the song still plays a big part.

bluestate wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:I really have zero clue how you all define lame.

Crash course on TSIS lameology:

Zombie pyramids
The Fixer video
BoB (being blamed for the songs that PJ now writes)
Ed taking over control
Stone conceding all control
Boom's sausage fingers
Binaural's official tracklisting

That's just the tip of the iceberg

FWIW, I'm still pretty fucking angry about the tip of the iceberg.