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Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 7:26 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, this dudes are playing in a great venue this november here !! Finally, i really wanted to see Jimmy live.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 1:23 pm
by VinylGuy
new album out august 2nd!! and its only 45 minutes long!!

guys we might have a winner here

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 1:54 pm
by Ello Sailor
I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 2:08 pm
by Kevin Davis
I haven't listened seriously to any reunion-era Pumpkins except for Zeitgeist and the acoustic EP that followed it. I know Zeitgeist isn't a beloved album but I actually liked it a lot, and played it a ton during the summer of 2007. Any suggestions for where to start on the stuff that's come since? I feel like I could use a little new Pumpkins in my life.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 2:27 pm
by Ello Sailor
Oh boy. Well I'll give you my two favorite songs. The albums are very patchy.

I loved this song immediately, but I loved it even more after hearing Billy explain that it was essentially his take on a sea shanty. One-two-three, one-two-three. Very fucking cool. He has said that he "didn't completely nail" this song, and I would have to assume he's alluding to the bridge. It's not bad, it's just not as incredible as the rest. Still, one of the best post-2000 SP tunes.



This is a song that appears to be confused sonically, but gets by on the beauty of the arrangement. And Billy's lyrics are some of the best he's written since Mellon Collie. Seriously, this destroyed me on first listen. It's so beautiful.

Should I hope to be the light you'd deny
Could I scratch the paint
To where you must shine


Also, I love Katie Cole, so her backing vocals are a very welcome addition.



I cannot recommend a full album, but I might compile a playlist.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 2:51 pm
by oasisfan35
Kevin Davis wrote:I haven't listened seriously to any reunion-era Pumpkins except for Zeitgeist and the acoustic EP that followed it. I know Zeitgeist isn't a beloved album but I actually liked it a lot, and played it a ton during the summer of 2007. Any suggestions for where to start on the stuff that's come since? I feel like I could use a little new Pumpkins in my life.
Funny, Zeitgeist is the last album I have of theirs in either lossless or lossy formats. I saw two shows that tour as well Boston, which was fantastic and Uncasville, which was atrocious.

Five (soon to be six) albums and three EPs since then it seems, looks like I have some listening to do.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 3:12 pm
by VinylGuy
well, i love Zeitgeist a lot. After that i come and go with different stuff, sometimes i come back to a certain song and i love it and that goes on.

I do like a lot most of the stuff from Atum, a lot from Cyr and Shiny and singles like GLOW or Superchrist or Gossamer.

I cant listen to Oceania these days. Its the only one i dont really care to listen, but i know thats going to change because it always does.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 4:42 pm
by Chris_H_2
Ello Sailor wrote:I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.
sounds like joe and his reaction to anything st. vincent.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 4:53 pm
by VinylGuy
got tickets for SP here in november!

:bammer: :bammer:

Cant wait. I really wanna see Jimmy and James.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 5:16 pm
by Ello Sailor
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Ello Sailor wrote:I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.
sounds like joe and his reaction to anything st. vincent.
Oh, I have way better taste than Joe. Let's not get crazy.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 5:16 pm
by Ello Sailor
VinylGuy wrote:got tickets for SP here in november!

:bammer: :bammer:

Cant wait. I really wanna see Jimmy and James.
Hell yeah, brother.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 10:27 pm
by Kevin Davis
Thanks for those recommendations, Ello — I liked them both quite a bit. When you said sea shanty I was expecting something folky; I liked that it was something kind of metallic and synthy-sounding, just with that 1-2-3 rhythm. And the other one is lovely. Billy’s voice just takes me somewhere else — instant salve.

But is it wrong to say that in recent-ish years the SP songbook has experienced a proliferation of songs that sound like they were named after RPG characters?

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sat July 20, 2024 6:03 am
by Ello Sailor
Kevin Davis wrote:But is it wrong to say that in recent-ish years the SP songbook has experienced a proliferation of songs that sound like they were named after RPG characters?
It's really gotten out of hand, but let's not forget our girls Tristessa and Starla.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sat July 20, 2024 6:08 am
by Ello Sailor
Oh, you weren't kidding. Just saw the new album title. Aghori Mhori Mei. What in the Skyrim is going on?

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sat July 20, 2024 2:12 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah the song titles are worst but ey, 45 minutes ! A straight rock album ! Could be cool

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 5:42 pm
by AndySlash
well, this is a genuinely surprising listen. seems there's still a little bit of that old smashing pumpkins left in these guys.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 5:57 pm
by VinylGuy
Oh it leaked !!

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri August 02, 2024 3:24 am
by VinylGuy
Listening right now

First song kids sounds like Jane’s Addiction

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri August 02, 2024 3:37 am
by VinylGuy
Second song was boring very sub par Corgan

Mmm this might be a better mixed Monuments

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri August 02, 2024 3:43 am
by VinylGuy
War Dreams Of Itself brings some very interesting guitar work back yeah.