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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:43 pm
by stupidmop
BurtReynolds wrote:I'm sure it will have some godawful chorus that sounds like an 80s sitcom that ruins the rest of the song. Its kinda what they do now.
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:If this is our other 'longest' track, it should work perfectly well to reduce / balance the schmaltz of Sirens in the album context. It's moody.
We ain't out of the woods yet. The bit where it cuts off is where it goes kinda 'up' for lack of a decent descriptor, you can hear it on the soundcheck, that would be the perfect place for ed to interject how infallible his love is or something.
It goes a lot less dark in the middle. Perfect for another chorus I hate. :hooray:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:46 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I'm sure it will have some godawful chorus that sounds like an 80s sitcom that ruins the rest of the song. Its kinda what they do now.
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:If this is our other 'longest' track, it should work perfectly well to reduce / balance the schmaltz of Sirens in the album context. It's moody.
We ain't out of the woods yet. The bit where it cuts off is where it goes kinda 'up' for lack of a decent descriptor, you can hear it on the soundcheck, that would be the perfect place for ed to interject how infallible his love is or something.
It goes a lot less dark in the middle. Perfect for another chorus I hate.
That's true. The lyrical snatches we have from the reviews sound pretty dark. Nothing as off-putting as the Sirens lyrics there, but if we know Ed, he'll fit 'em in.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:47 pm
by harmless
Chris_H_2 wrote:Are we sure that this isn't an early Sirens demo before BOB and Ed put a little fixin on it?
:?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:48 pm
by harmless
One of the reviews said "80s British". If that reviewer is talking about Peter Gabriel, I sort of hear it too :lol:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:49 pm
by McParadigm
Nothing about this is jumping out at me. Sounds like it might be another track I find inoffensive but unengaging....which is at least better than the "Well, at least you tried, I guess..." of Lightning Bolt or the "Don't ever do that again" response elicited by Records and Future Days.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:51 pm
by Vindicator
Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:52 pm
by harmless
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:55 pm
by Vindicator
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

No but maybe this is an early demo version that Jeff brought in. Just like what Mike is playing in the Sirens vignette is totally different.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:56 pm
by harmless
Vindicator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

No but maybe this is an early demo version that Jeff brought in. Just like what Mike is playing in the Sirens vignette is totally different.
I think it's got too many bells and whistles to be a demo. But if it's a demo version, it's even more likely to be worse on the final recording.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 5:56 pm
by harmless
Vindicator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

No but maybe this is an early demo version that Jeff brought in. Just like what Mike is playing in the Sirens vignette is totally different.
*double post*

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:00 pm
by Vindicator
Also the clip reminded me a bit of Sail by AWOLNation.

http://youtu.be/0FHVFV68LFQ

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:04 pm
by McParadigm
A band who have been through as much turbulence as Pearl Jam have to know what they are doing to stay on top. And while their contemporaries have died or split-up, or both, they have sat firmly at the top of the ‘biggest rock bands in the world’ list since the early nineties.

The band have always understood the importance of sounding like Pearl Jam. They have a sound, a feel, something that immediately identifies the music as being by them. They have developed within this but never strayed from it

They have that ‘big sound’ - massive sounding drums and bass, guitars up to eleven and Eddie Vedder’s exceptional vocals driving the whole thing forward.
Suck it, dead people!

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:05 pm
by harmless
"...or both..."

Can you die *and* split up?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
rank the biggest rock bands in the world.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:09 pm
by stupidmop
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

No but maybe this is an early demo version that Jeff brought in. Just like what Mike is playing in the Sirens vignette is totally different.
I think it's got too many bells and whistles to be a demo. But if it's a demo version, it's even more likely to be worse on the final recording.
:lol: I know this to be true but it still made me crack up.

It's not big grungy guitars but Ive pretty much lost all hope that they're ever gonna sound like that again. But if we're gonna get keyboards and shit this is the way to do it.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:10 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:"...or both..."

Can you die *and* split up?
You have to want it, harm.

The next part's just as great:
So, it’s no surprise to say that their tenth studio effort Lightening Bolt is what you would expect from Pearl Jam. With trusted producer Brendan O’ Brien (famed for his big rock sound) at the helm it has the bombast to be considered up there with the band’s best.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:11 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:rank the biggest rock bands in the world.
1. Brendan O'Brien

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:11 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Shit, worst fear may have been realized. The production on Infallible in that clip is totally different from the live soundcheck version. I FUCKING love the beat, but instead of raw guitars, it's neutered by keyboards. I hope it's different in the full version
No point in hoping it'll be different, it's the song. The only thing taken off is the vocals. I've got a feeling this is the first verse music, going into the chorus. But the guitars could get more obvious later on, who knows?

No but maybe this is an early demo version that Jeff brought in. Just like what Mike is playing in the Sirens vignette is totally different.
I think it's got too many bells and whistles to be a demo. But if it's a demo version, it's even more likely to be worse on the final recording.
:lol: I know this to be true but it still made me crack up.

It's not big grungy guitars but Ive pretty much lost all hope that they're ever gonna sound like that again. But if we're gonna get keyboards and shit this is the way to do it.
Agreed. I just think whatever they're doing, I want it to have something surprising and creative about it. The concept of blending what sounds like it *would've* been a grunge song way back, with Brendan's pop leanings, could turn out really interesting. Or it could somethin' else.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:13 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:"...or both..."

Can you die *and* split up?
You have to want it, harm.

The next part's just as great:
So, it’s no surprise to say that their tenth studio effort Lightening Bolt is what you would expect from Pearl Jam. With trusted producer Brendan O’ Brien (famed for his big rock sound) at the helm it has the bombast to be considered up there with the band’s best.
Yeah that's definitely a highlight.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Mon September 23, 2013 6:14 pm
by ABNorman
BurtReynolds wrote:rank the biggest rock bands in the world.
The boys transcend "ranks".