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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:40 pm
by bune
I wonder if this will make a difference?
it crashed their website so it's def. something big.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:46 pm
by 96583UP
well also bc PJ is christian rock now and will be exclusively streaming through them

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:50 pm
by bune
you mean like how the Heavenly Father flows through them?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:52 pm
by 96583UP
yes, through transubstantiation or now mp3 and flac

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 12:27 am
by McParadigm
Woah

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 12:28 am
by epilogue
yeah that tracks

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 12:32 am
by epilogue
welp.... :haha:
Over the last couple of weeks, President Trump hit upon a new line of defense against impeachment. Seizing upon a passage in the transcript of the phone call where he asked Ukraine’s president to investigate the Bidens, Trump highlighted his use of the word us, employing the argument repeatedly. “With the word ‘us’ I am referring to the United States, our Country,” he tweeted earlier this month. “I said do us a favor, not me, and our country, not a campaign,” he wrote in his diatribe to Nancy Pelosi, showing a heretofore absent gusto for Talmudic analysis.

But Trump couldn’t even keep this line straight in his head long enough to last through the impeachment vote itself. At his rally (scheduled last night during the vote, to soothe his psychic pain and presumably distract him from acting out in more destructive fashion), Trump repeatedly used the first-person plural to describe himself. “It doesn’t really feel like we’re being impeached,” he said. “We did nothing wrong. We did nothing wrong and we have tremendous support in the Republican Party, like we’ve never had before, nobody’s ever had this kind of support … The people are trying to impeach us for doing all of the things that they’ve wanted to do for so many years.”

Well, so much for the argument that Trump would never use the first-person plural to describe himself.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/ ... _medium=s1

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 1:28 am
by Bi_3
cutuphalfdead wrote:

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 2:53 am
by 96583UP
i wonder if her stock is unvested / restricted or if once it is assigned to her it can be sold

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 2:55 am
by doug rr
96583UP wrote:i wonder if her stock is unvested / restricted or if once it is assigned to her it can be sold
would you track her package?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 2:57 am
by 96583UP
doug rr wrote:
96583UP wrote:i wonder if her stock is unvested / restricted or if once it is assigned to her it can be sold
would you track her package?
i would thoroughly stuff its contents to remain secure during shipping

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 4:35 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Has anyone heard from Mulvaney since he admitted quid pro quo?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 4:49 am
by verb_to_trust
I saw a picture of him wearing a Space Force hat a few weeks ago

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 4:50 am
by bune
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Has anyone heard from Mulvaney since he admitted quid pro quo?
i mean, yeah?
McParadigm wrote:Woah

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:09 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Ah, I had heard a snippet on a news show that Mulvaney was expected to leave early next year. I should have looked before posting.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 1:51 pm
by McParadigm
Mulvaney exit rumors have existed for a while, going back even before his slip up. They’ve always been met with skepticism, though, because in Trump’s understaffed White House he basically does the work of three positions. Tossing him out means an almost total vacuum of leadership. A lot of unfilled jobs have been folded into the COS role. Hell, he’s STILL the OMB.

The other cause for skepticism was that Trump had, if you’ll recall, a terrible time finding someone who was willing to step into the role after Kelly left. No one wanted the job. They tried to give it to a Pence staff member, Mark Meadows, Rick Santorum, Chris Christie.....nobody wanted it. Even Kushner didn’t want it at that time! Trump was embarrassed and frustrated, telling stupid lies about having lots of people begging for the job....it’s the type of embarrassment he can’t stand. The “you’re fired” guy can’t get an applicant to save his soul.

So while the idea of Mulvaney leaving has been out there for a while, it really is a shock that it would actually happen.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 1:55 pm
by McParadigm
Maybe Meadows is up for it now, and that’s why he’s leaving the House. Otherwise I don’t see how we don’t end up with COS Miller, or Ivanka, or something.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:26 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You can tell that Republicans really do think Pelosi withholding the articles until an agreement on a senate trial is made would be great for them, because they’re standing around saying “HO BOY WOULD THAT BE GOOD FOR US. WE REALLY ARE GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT GEE WIZ,” and that’s how it works.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:44 pm
by bune
hasn't he had several chances to 'have his day in court'? or maybe he just means a friendly court.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 4:41 pm
by liebzz
bune wrote:hasn't he had several chances to 'have his day in court'? or maybe he just means a friendly court.
Exactly. They were invited to participate in the inquiry but chose not to. They also refused to provide exculpatory evidence that could have prevented impeachment. Had Mulvaney or Bolton or Trump himself testified, it could have shed much more light on what happened surrounding the call and what his intentions during the call were. Instead they defended themselves only by saying they couldn’t establish a direct line to the president (which they ignore is completely because the White House stonewalled any witness that would have provided evidence in either direction concerning that direct line). They have all also conveniently forgotten that circumstantial evidence is (1) evidence; and (2) most often admissible in a court unless a evidentiary rule prohibits it for a particular reason.