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Which was better:

Rogue One
36
61%
The Force Awakens
10
17%
Equally Good
11
19%
Haven't Seen Both
0
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Both Suck
2
3%
 
Total votes: 59

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dimejinky99 wrote:
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dimejinky99 wrote:Nice. You can really get a feel off these.
http://imgur.com/a/DBIlh
Wow, didn't know Argo was in this movie. He's looking pretty tan.

Is that racist? Does he look Jewish?
I don't know who Argo is. Sounds like a fake name.
He probably doesn't post in SW threads enough
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dimejinky99 wrote:
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dimejinky99 wrote:*the crystal in kylos lightsaber is actually cracked. That's why it's frazzled and haywire when it's on. Also canon.
Its cracked because he is an imperfect character and thats why i love him.

I'm sad you're not excited about that Luke scene. Really thought you would have been. Ah well.
its just not much, you know? Its kind of awkward and pointless. I understand why it was cut.
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Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:*the crystal in kylos lightsaber is actually cracked. That's why it's frazzled and haywire when it's on. Also canon.
Its cracked because he is an imperfect character and thats why i love him.

I'm sad you're not excited about that Luke scene. Really thought you would have been. Ah well.
its just not much, you know? Its kind of awkward and pointless. I understand why it was cut.
I really dig that scene, but as you say, it was a good thing that they cut it.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:*the crystal in kylos lightsaber is actually cracked. That's why it's frazzled and haywire when it's on. Also canon.
Its cracked because he is an imperfect character and thats why i love him.

I'm sad you're not excited about that Luke scene. Really thought you would have been. Ah well.
its just not much, you know? Its kind of awkward and pointless. I understand why it was cut.
I really dig that scene, but as you say, it was a good thing that they cut it.
I wish there was more to it. Like i said, i love the idea of understanding and seeing them build their lightsaber ( in non cartoon form) but this was just a quick shot of luke screwing a piece in, awkward darth convo that he states later in the film, and then the droids heading out
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Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:*the crystal in kylos lightsaber is actually cracked. That's why it's frazzled and haywire when it's on. Also canon.
Its cracked because he is an imperfect character and thats why i love him.

I'm sad you're not excited about that Luke scene. Really thought you would have been. Ah well.
its just not much, you know? Its kind of awkward and pointless. I understand why it was cut.
I really dig that scene, but as you say, it was a good thing that they cut it.
I wish there was more to it. Like i said, i love the idea of understanding and seeing them build their lightsaber ( in non cartoon form) but this was just a quick shot of luke screwing a piece in, awkward darth convo that he states later in the film, and then the droids heading out
Oh totes. It's a good cut. But I loved seeing in now, looking back. It would have been super awkward in the film. But now they can give us more info on how lightsabers are built and what makes them work.

It's telling that with all the shit Lucas shoehorned BACK into his movies with the SE, he didn't bother putting this in. Luke's introductin in Jedi is fantastic and this would have taken the air all the way out of that.

But it's still fun for a fan to see.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:*the crystal in kylos lightsaber is actually cracked. That's why it's frazzled and haywire when it's on. Also canon.
Its cracked because he is an imperfect character and thats why i love him.

I'm sad you're not excited about that Luke scene. Really thought you would have been. Ah well.
its just not much, you know? Its kind of awkward and pointless. I understand why it was cut.
I really dig that scene, but as you say, it was a good thing that they cut it.
I wish there was more to it. Like i said, i love the idea of understanding and seeing them build their lightsaber ( in non cartoon form) but this was just a quick shot of luke screwing a piece in, awkward darth convo that he states later in the film, and then the droids heading out
Oh totes. It's a good cut. But I loved seeing in now, looking back. It would have been super awkward in the film. But now they can give us more info on how lightsabers are built and what makes them work.

It's telling that with all the shit Lucas shoehorned BACK into his movies with the SE, he didn't bother putting this in. Luke's introductin in Jedi is fantastic and this would have taken the air all the way out of that.

But it's still fun for a fan to see.
Friend, ill take any and all star wars stuff till the cows come home
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I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.
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If it had been shot in a modern sense maybe Luke profile and silhouetted against the sky in the cave and no droids and just the lightsaber flashing on and cut then to the droids it could have been awesome. You know then whoever it is in is in trouble and he's on a mission.

Think it would have been a great way to start the film.
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durdencommatyler wrote:I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.

About that.

It's going to fail badly at some point. Story wise. Where though. And it what format? Law of averages says it has to fuck up eventually.
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dimejinky99 wrote:If it had been shot in a modern sense maybe Luke profile and silhouetted against the sky in the cave and no droids and just the lightsaber flashing on and cut then to the droids it could have been awesome. You know then whoever it is in is in trouble and he's on a mission.

Think it would have been a great way to start the film.
Yeah, there are certainly ways it could have worked. But as shot, I'm glad it was cut.
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durdencommatyler wrote:I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.

About that.

It's going to fail badly at some point. Story wise. Where though. And it what format? Law of averages says it has to fuck up eventually.
Oh, it's inevitable. My guess is it starts to hit over saturation and turn super down hill after EP 9. IF they do a TV series and try to keep the Saga Films going. If they don't do those things, they have a lot more time.

Other things that could hurt them: a Boba Fett movie, a Han Solo Trilogy, a Rebels film.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.

About that.

It's going to fail badly at some point. Story wise. Where though. And it what format? Law of averages says it has to fuck up eventually.
Oh, it's inevitable. My guess is it starts to hit over saturation and turn super down hill after EP 9. IF they do a TV series and try to keep the Saga Films going. If they don't do those things, they have a lot more time.

Other things that could hurt them: a Boba Fett movie, a Han Solo Trilogy, a Rebels film.
Its kind of like pearl jam for me. Ill enjoy it all, love a lot, be mild on some. But i hope they keep giving me things to immerse myself in .
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Star Wars has been dead for some time.
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Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.

About that.

It's going to fail badly at some point. Story wise. Where though. And it what format? Law of averages says it has to fuck up eventually.
Oh, it's inevitable. My guess is it starts to hit over saturation and turn super down hill after EP 9. IF they do a TV series and try to keep the Saga Films going. If they don't do those things, they have a lot more time.

Other things that could hurt them: a Boba Fett movie, a Han Solo Trilogy, a Rebels film.
Its kind of like pearl jam for me. Ill enjoy it all, love a lot, be mild on some. But i hope they keep giving me things to immerse myself in .
Do you read any of the books? People seem to like a lot of those.

I believe they are working toward the Marvel model and you'll start to see 2 Star Wars films a year here in a bit. And there will be a tv series at some point. It will happen. So, the future looks bright for you friend.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I know you will, friend. And hope you get all the Star Wars you can handle for the rest of your life.

About that.

It's going to fail badly at some point. Story wise. Where though. And it what format? Law of averages says it has to fuck up eventually.
Oh, it's inevitable. My guess is it starts to hit over saturation and turn super down hill after EP 9. IF they do a TV series and try to keep the Saga Films going. If they don't do those things, they have a lot more time.

Other things that could hurt them: a Boba Fett movie, a Han Solo Trilogy, a Rebels film.
Its kind of like pearl jam for me. Ill enjoy it all, love a lot, be mild on some. But i hope they keep giving me things to immerse myself in .
Do you read any of the books? People seem to like a lot of those.

I believe they are working toward the Marvel model and you'll start to see 2 Star Wars films a year here in a bit. And there will be a tv series at some point. It will happen. So, the future looks bright for you friend.
I hope decent product continues to be put forth, and i assume that any strat meltdown will be of his own accord. I rather them just keep putting out interesting stories. If i get sick of them it will be my fault. I got burned out on all the super hero movies.
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Also, i haven't read any books other than the jedi academy trilogy and thrawn trilogy. That was in like 9th grade.
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How much do Disney care about over saturation vs profit quick and now?

I maintain they're past the health point and are milking the marvel thing past death.

I think the public are already over being fed trilogies and trans platform media about one franchise. Even dedicated Star Wars fans have a point where they go enough is enough.

Han films or obi wan film or whatever..how do they keep it going when people are tired or reluctant to see loved characters rehashed but same public are hard sells on new characters in new trilogies?
They're in a tough spot on that Disney.
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dimejinky99 wrote:How much do Disney care about over saturation vs profit quick and now?

I maintain they're past the health point and are milking the marvel thing past death.

I think the public are already over being fed trilogies and trans platform media about one franchise. Even dedicated Star Wars fans have a point where they go enough is enough.

Han films or obi wan film or whatever..how do they keep it going when people are tired or reluctant to see loved characters rehashed but same public are hard sells on new characters in new trilogies?
They're in a tough spot on that Disney.
I dont think catering to the super obsessive die hard idiot star war fans is the best thing to do. Just put out good stories about star wars and most will be thrilled.
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I think the first thing you have to do is drop the saga after Ep 9. Let that be a "Skywalker" trilogy of trilogies. And then move on.

They shouldn't do any other trilogies after that for a long, long, long time. If ever. They should do stand alone anthology films, and only single anthology films, no trilogies.

Expand the universe. Stop sticking with the characters and timeframe that we already know. Rogue One is a perfect bridge. Han Solo, fine, if it's one movie.

Then start to spread out. If you're going to tell more stories in the saga timeline, keep focusing on minor and/or unknown characters.

And DON'T expand to two movies a year. Keep it one a year, tops. One every two years would be better.

The profit can come from the merch, the books, the comics, and the theme park.
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