Gigaton: Official album thread

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The Argonaut wrote:Here is my abridged Gigaton
lol the arrogance of chud
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I don't get "abridging" any album; either it succeeds or fails imo

I get liking certain songs and rejecting the rest, but tbh if that happens to me I'll always eventually sour on listening to the whole lot
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Ms Harmless wrote:I don't get "abridging" any album; either it succeeds or fails imo

I get liking certain songs and rejecting the rest, but tbh if that happens to me I'll always eventually sour on listening to the whole lot
Makes absolutely no sense to me...Abridging an album is an insult to the intention of the artist, IMO.

I could see making a shuffled or truncated playlist for the gym, or maybe a run, but, to disregard entire portions of an artistic statement? Not a fan...

Diff'rent Strokes n' all that, I get it, but, I'm admittedly a dinosaur...I'm a full album listener.
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I bet chud has to get up off the couch all the time to skip around his vinyl records of all his favorite artists to the tracks he deems worthy. what a weirdo.
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spike wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Here is my abridged Gigaton
lol the arrogance of chud
I don't think that's what Argo was going for, I think he was saying that he didn't like Gigaton
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Strat wrote:I bet chud has to get up off the couch all the time to skip around his vinyl records of all his favorite artists to the tracks he deems worthy. what a weirdo.
Probably has the calves of a Greek God (hopefully not Achilles)
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't get "abridging" any album; either it succeeds or fails imo

I get liking certain songs and rejecting the rest, but tbh if that happens to me I'll always eventually sour on listening to the whole lot
Makes absolutely no sense to me...Abridging an album is an insult to the intention of the artist, IMO.

I could see making a shuffled or truncated playlist for the gym, or maybe a run, but, to disregard entire portions of an artistic statement? Not a fan...

Diff'rent Strokes n' all that, I get it, but, I'm admittedly a dinosaur...I'm a full album listener.
I mean yeah, but it's also not that serious. All abridging and retracking goes against the original intentions of the artist, but that's okay. I also abridged Gigaton because there are 3 tracks I just never want to listen to, and I think it holds together better as a shorter album. This is very easy to do with playlists. Am I spitting in the face of the art? I'm not concerned. Retracking, compiling and retooling has always been part of how I listen to music
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Every time I hear Alright slide in to Seven O'clock, I just hear one song. They mesh perfectly - musically, thematically...
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theplatypus wrote: I mean yeah, but it's also not that serious. All abridging and retracking goes against the original intentions of the artist, but that's okay. I also abridged Gigaton because there are 3 tracks I just never want to listen to, and I think it holds together better as a shorter album. This is very easy to do with playlists. Am I spitting in the face of the art? I'm not concerned. Retracking, compiling and retooling has always been part of how I listen to music
Like I said, Diff'rent Strokes. To me, it is that serious, and it is that meaningful. I'm fully acknowledging that 99.7% of the music-listening population likely doesn't care to such an extent, and I'm completely fine with that. I listen with my ears and my brain only. Anyone else is entitled to do as they see fit.
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theplatypus wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't get "abridging" any album; either it succeeds or fails imo

I get liking certain songs and rejecting the rest, but tbh if that happens to me I'll always eventually sour on listening to the whole lot
Makes absolutely no sense to me...Abridging an album is an insult to the intention of the artist, IMO.

I could see making a shuffled or truncated playlist for the gym, or maybe a run, but, to disregard entire portions of an artistic statement? Not a fan...

Diff'rent Strokes n' all that, I get it, but, I'm admittedly a dinosaur...I'm a full album listener.
I mean yeah, but it's also not that serious. All abridging and retracking goes against the original intentions of the artist, but that's okay. I also abridged Gigaton because there are 3 tracks I just never want to listen to, and I think it holds together better as a shorter album. This is very easy to do with playlists. Am I spitting in the face of the art? I'm not concerned. Retracking, compiling and retooling has always been part of how I listen to music
to be clear, I wasn't saying it was serious or wrong or anything, it's just an impulse I don't "get"; I think it would be easier if I did, I could just take that song that ruins the album... off the album; I'm an extremely all or nothing person, for better and worse
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to add to this, when I talk about how music works or doesn't work for me, what it achieves or how it fails, I care very little about artistic / authorial intention

that's why I can point to, say, ATW, and confidently say it succeeds to do many things I want to listen to, even if others hear it failing to do what it sounds like it's "trying to do"
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Ms Harmless wrote:to add to this, when I talk about how music works or doesn't work for me, what it achieves or how it fails, I care very little about artistic / authorial intention

that's why I can point to, say, ATW, and confidently say it succeeds to do many things I want to listen to, even if others hear it failing to do what it sounds like it's "trying to do"
Don't get me wrong...I can enjoy some songs more than others. I'm just saying that when I listen to an album, any album by a band I enjoy, I'm listening to the entire thing.

I realize I'm probably in the minority these days.
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:to add to this, when I talk about how music works or doesn't work for me, what it achieves or how it fails, I care very little about artistic / authorial intention

that's why I can point to, say, ATW, and confidently say it succeeds to do many things I want to listen to, even if others hear it failing to do what it sounds like it's "trying to do"
Don't get me wrong...I can enjoy some songs more than others. I'm just saying that when I listen to an album, any album by a band I enjoy, I'm listening to the entire thing.

I realize I'm probably in the minority these days.
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You guys don't ever just listen to a single song or a curated playlist?
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The Argonaut wrote:You guys don't ever just listen to a single song or a curated playlist?
all the time.

But i also spend time listening to the entire albums front to back. With all of my favorite bands.

I have workout playlists, skiing playlists, biking playlists, sleeping playlists, meditation playlists.


But I dont re-track and album and listen to it as the definitive experience.
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I think I listen to full albums more than most people these days, but I still skip tracks I don't like or that I'm not in the mood for at that moment. That's not a betrayal of the artist
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The Argonaut wrote:You guys don't ever just listen to a single song or a curated playlist?
I listen to single songs all the time, over and over, but never curate playlists

my partner is all about the playlists; listening to an album straight through is a chore for them; everything is singles and playlists
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theplatypus wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't get "abridging" any album; either it succeeds or fails imo

I get liking certain songs and rejecting the rest, but tbh if that happens to me I'll always eventually sour on listening to the whole lot
Makes absolutely no sense to me...Abridging an album is an insult to the intention of the artist, IMO.

I could see making a shuffled or truncated playlist for the gym, or maybe a run, but, to disregard entire portions of an artistic statement? Not a fan...

Diff'rent Strokes n' all that, I get it, but, I'm admittedly a dinosaur...I'm a full album listener.
I mean yeah, but it's also not that serious. All abridging and retracking goes against the original intentions of the artist, but that's okay. I also abridged Gigaton because there are 3 tracks I just never want to listen to, and I think it holds together better as a shorter album. This is very easy to do with playlists. Am I spitting in the face of the art? I'm not concerned. Retracking, compiling and retooling has always been part of how I listen to music
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the good thing about my attitude to albums is that if I like more than half of an album, I will work extremely hard to give the rest time to grow in context to the whole thing; Pearl Jam has earned more of that time from me than any other band
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I listen to albums. Pretty much very every artist...then, i listen to the songs i like the most.
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