they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 4:43 pm
by stip
(waits for it...)
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 4:56 pm
by PHATJ
stip wrote:(waits for it...)
Matalica?
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 6:21 pm
by koopee27
Self wrote:I am here to vote against everything Smashing Pumpkins. Not because I don't think they belong, but because I loathe them.
same here.
kp
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 6:32 pm
by bada
stip wrote:(waits for it...)
It's been a slow tumble.
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 6:58 pm
by Jorge
stip wrote:they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly
IMO, they were great all throughout their initial run. I recently revisited Machina and it sounds like shit but it's filled with strong songs.
Siamese Dream remains my favorite 90s rock album
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 8:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Yeah I love MACHINA. Even Zeitgeist has some decent tracks.
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 8:36 pm
by stip
i quite like adore, and there are some strong songs on machina, but even those two albums are a giant step back from SD and MC...
even gish is better than I remember. I think Billy Corgan is probably the most talented musician of that scene
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 8:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 8:41 pm
by epilogue
I guess. But rarely has his music moved me. There are a handful of songs but that's it. So, really what's the point? What good is it being "the best musician" of a time and place if the music doesn't affect or move you?
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 8:42 pm
by doone
Well said Joey
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 9:53 pm
by chewm
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly
IMO, they were great all throughout their initial run. I recently revisited Machina and it sounds like shit but it's filled with strong songs.
I agree.
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 10:37 pm
by Jorge
It is actually unfair how head-and-shoulders above everything else Siamese Dream is in this tourney. It's almost reason enough to remove it.
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 10:39 pm
by chewm
It's not even the best SP album.
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 10:40 pm
by Jorge
But it iiiiiis Chewm it iiiiiiiiis
Re: Best of Grunge Tournament: 1991-1996
Posted: Wed August 16, 2017 10:40 pm
by LoathedVermin72
stip wrote:i quite like adore, and there are some strong songs on machina, but even those two albums are a giant step back from SD and MC...