Red Mosquito

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 12:46 pm**

Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:Other than ATY (which I like more than I used to) , this is the pearl jam record that has aged the worst for me. Even the best songs on the record (GTF, DTE, Brain of J, and wishlist) I don't listen to that much any more, and all the other songs I have grown to like less over the years.
It BAFFLES me how anyone could think this album has aged the worst. I think it has aged the best. It doesn't scream NINETIES and it's probably their most mature album, as in it doesn't sound like like teen angst and it doesn't sound either like 'hey we need to do weird stuff to prove we're not just a teen angst band'. Sounds like, maybe for the first time, making great music without caring about what Pearl-Jam-the-band should be doing or how it would be perceived was the only thing that mattered.

i meant aged in terms of how much I enjoy it now compared to how much I enjoyed it then. I don't think it sounds dated.

I also don't think any pearl jam album sounds forced, as you seem to imply some of the records do. I tend to think each pearl jam album is a reaction to the one that came before.

I just don't think a lot of these songs are that great. with the exception of 4 or 5 there is something that stops each of the remaining songs from being as great as it could be. that's part for the course for me for every PJ record but Ten and Vitalogy (and to a lesser extent Vs. and Backspacer, where there are still some flawed songs, but I like those flawed songs more than the ones I do on the other records)

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 12:52 pm**

Ahhh 1997..the year of the horse.....

and the year I discovered PJ...I was 13 years old at that time. And never in my life art had impacted me bigger than that moment I first heard 'TEN'. The following months I would buy all their records....'No Code' was their newest born at that time. And to this day I consider 'No Code' a masterpiece. A couple of months later 'Yield' was announced. The thrill to hear GTF on the radio for the first time..days later I would buy the single on the day of it's release. 'Pilate' and 'Leatherman' as b-sides. I must have listened to that single non-stop for over a month.
I would buy my Pearl Jam record on a release day on februari 3rd 1998.

The rest of the year I would discovering PJ websites. I was anticipating tour rumours...a EU tour was likely but somehow never happened.

Single Video Theory was broadcasted on tv later that year...I remember watching that a dozen time.
LO2L was released...

I discovered old bootlegs of performances through a friend...

ahhh..memories. This was the era where I started to love the band after being in love for the first couple of months.

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 12:54 pm**

I remember buying the cd and the tape in the record store so I could listen to it on the 10 minute drive back to campus

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 12:54 pm**

weird era for me. after no code and the no code tour i kinda fell off. i really didnt pay much attention to the lead up to yield b/c i didnt expect much.

then in august of 1998 my life changed. i saw pearl jam live and fell back in love w/ the band.

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 1:00 pm**

stip wrote:i meant aged in terms of how much I enjoy it now compared to how much I enjoyed it then. I don't think it sounds dated.

alright, my bad

stip wrote:I also don't think any pearl jam album sounds forced, as you seem to imply some of the records do. I tend to think each pearl jam album is a reaction to the one that came before.

I happen to think that their latest albums sound forced but that wasn't exactly what I was trying to say here. I just meant that before Yield it seemed like there was an agenda, or that they were trying to prove something. Maybe I should exclude Ten from this reasoning because I guess they weren't specifically trying to become the biggest band in the word at that time, but after that it seems they felt like they had to either meet the public/media's expectations or fight these expectations (the whole alienating fans thing). It seems to me that on Yield they didn't care about any of that and they just cared about coming up with the best music they could at that time.

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 3:30 pm**

nightmareblack0206 wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote: it is entirely possible it just would have passed me by
It's a reeeal possibilityyyyyyyyyy
Everytime I hear this part of the song i laugh. And I love this song

Every time I see this quoted on the board, I laugh.

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 6:10 pm**

Solid era ... Yield, LO2L, b-sides, Monkeywrench Radio....

It was around 97 that I started getting really big into tape trading as well. An unhealthy amount of my time dedicated to PJ during this time. It really overshadows most of my other memories of these two years.

Posted: **Wed March 27, 2013 10:32 pm**

ah yes, tape trading

Posted: **Thu March 28, 2013 12:21 am**

joostone wrote:Ahhh 1997..the year of the horse.....

and the year I discovered PJ...I was 13 years old at that time. And never in my life art had impacted me bigger than that moment I first heard 'TEN'. The following months I would buy all their records....'No Code' was their newest born at that time. And to this day I consider 'No Code' a masterpiece. A couple of months later 'Yield' was announced. The thrill to hear GTF on the radio for the first time..days later I would buy the single on the day of it's release. 'Pilate' and 'Leatherman' as b-sides. I must have listened to that single non-stop for over a month.
I would buy my Pearl Jam record on a release day on februari 3rd 1998.

The rest of the year I would discovering PJ websites. I was anticipating tour rumours...a EU tour was likely but somehow never happened.

Single Video Theory was broadcasted on tv later that year...I remember watching that a dozen time.
LO2L was released...

I discovered old bootlegs of performances through a friend...

ahhh..memories. This was the era where I started to love the band after being in love for the first couple of months.

Fivehorizons.com

Posted: **Thu March 28, 2013 1:58 pm**

Noaheb wrote:
joostone wrote:Ahhh 1997..the year of the horse.....

and the year I discovered PJ...I was 13 years old at that time. And never in my life art had impacted me bigger than that moment I first heard 'TEN'. The following months I would buy all their records....'No Code' was their newest born at that time. And to this day I consider 'No Code' a masterpiece. A couple of months later 'Yield' was announced. The thrill to hear GTF on the radio for the first time..days later I would buy the single on the day of it's release. 'Pilate' and 'Leatherman' as b-sides. I must have listened to that single non-stop for over a month.
I would buy my Pearl Jam record on a release day on februari 3rd 1998.

The rest of the year I would discovering PJ websites. I was anticipating tour rumours...a EU tour was likely but somehow never happened.

Single Video Theory was broadcasted on tv later that year...I remember watching that a dozen time.
LO2L was released...

I discovered old bootlegs of performances through a friend...

ahhh..memories. This was the era where I started to love the band after being in love for the first couple of months.
Fivehorizons.com

That web page was a great source of information...i didnt have any and, all of a sudden i have a whole page with pics, info about the records, Fucking setlists!!....Amazing web page.

Posted: **Thu March 28, 2013 3:24 pm**

cutuphalfdead wrote:ah yes, tape trading

By mail. Maxell XL II only please.

There's some guy in Tanawanda, NY that I traded with who spurned me. He still owes me a bunch of shows. If you are out there, I still want them.

When I was a freshman in college, I met this shady character who looked creepily like Demone from Fast Times who traded cassette bootlegs of a bunch of bands. I still have the traded cassettes in my basement.

Posted: **Thu March 28, 2013 4:05 pm**

VinylGuy wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
joostone wrote:Ahhh 1997..the year of the horse.....

and the year I discovered PJ...I was 13 years old at that time. And never in my life art had impacted me bigger than that moment I first heard 'TEN'. The following months I would buy all their records....'No Code' was their newest born at that time. And to this day I consider 'No Code' a masterpiece. A couple of months later 'Yield' was announced. The thrill to hear GTF on the radio for the first time..days later I would buy the single on the day of it's release. 'Pilate' and 'Leatherman' as b-sides. I must have listened to that single non-stop for over a month.
I would buy my Pearl Jam record on a release day on februari 3rd 1998.

The rest of the year I would discovering PJ websites. I was anticipating tour rumours...a EU tour was likely but somehow never happened.

Single Video Theory was broadcasted on tv later that year...I remember watching that a dozen time.
LO2L was released...

I discovered old bootlegs of performances through a friend...

ahhh..memories. This was the era where I started to love the band after being in love for the first couple of months.
Fivehorizons.com
That web page was a great source of information...i didnt have any and, all of a sudden i have a whole page with pics, info about the records, Fucking setlists!!....Amazing web page.

Five Horizons enhanced my whole experience. I poured over old setlists and loved watching them come in the next day during the 1998 tour. I rarely posted on MFC (the forum), but I loved reading everyone’s thoughts.

I got my first 2 bootlegs in 1997. No Fuckin’ Messiah II and I paid 50.00 for the 10/1/96 – Buffalo show which I wore out. It was the first time I noticed that different drummers effect the sound of the music (Jack vs. Dave). I was so new to thinking about rock music in the live setting and variations during concerts was a huge deal. The Save it For Later tag and the Blood>Fame>Heaven blew my mind. I played that bootleg for everyone that came near my dorm room and they all loved it. Everyone I knew had at least been a Pearl Jam fan and my new obsession with them helped get a couple people back into them. I met my best friend because of that bootleg and we ended up seeing 12 shows together over the 98/00/03 tours.

During this time I searched and scavenged to find all of the singles I could. I remember the Go single with Alone was a special find. I appreciated the artwork, both on the covers and the discs themselves. Yield’s Given to Fly and Faithful cd singles were a cherished commodity. I love that live Brain of J from Australia.
In the middle of this obsession, which was completely justified, you start to feel like others wonder what your problem is. Why are you listening to Let Me Sleep and Bee Girl so damn much? Yeah, Stephen we’ve heard State of Love and Trust live. Don’t you already own the album, why are you buying that single song? Now no one asked me these questions buy I was paranoid enough to think they wanted to.

I was ringing bells for the Salvation Army in Dallas over the Christmas break in 1997. There were about 20 of us from my college that did it. You ring from 8:00 in the morning until 8:00 at night and then you get up and do it again for 7 days straight. All you hear that is fucking bell ringing in your sleep and you start to not like human beings. Anyway we are all on this big van driving back to the motel we are staying in and Given to Fly is about to be previewed on the radio. The one friend I had there was driving the van and he made everyone shut up and 15 of us listened to in silence for the duration of the song. Country fans, Nirvana fans and people that didn’t like music all had a special moment listening. Like a college basketball team you route for, it feels like we all have a part in the team and I was filled with pride that Pearl Jam could produce such a universal perfect piece of music.

From 97-98 I was the perfect age and they were the perfect band.

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 10:16 pm**

IN HIDING is insane!

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 11:05 pm**

Hatfield wrote:I got my first 2 bootlegs in 1997. No Fuckin’ Messiah II and I paid 50.00 for the 10/1/96

I was gonna type I don't miss spending $50 for a bootleg but I kinda do.

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 11:20 pm**

First bootleg I ever bought (3/17/95). Man those were good times.

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 11:27 pm**

That looks like the cover to one of those Master P-produced "No Limit" records from the 90s.

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 11:34 pm**

Master P

Posted: **Fri March 29, 2013 11:40 pm**

Posted: **Sat March 30, 2013 12:18 am**

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun March 31, 2013 11:24 am**

This guy really likes pearl jam eh?

98 was definitely the crest of the wave. For them and me.

Red Mosquito

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