Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:45 pm
Yeah, I agree with that. They should of maybe just left it an Ed solo track, or chosen a different song for S/T.Anders wrote:The demo is superior, but still.
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S/T Survivor: Album Finals
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Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:45 pm
The demo is still bad. Of course the band arrangement in the album version is lazy and unimaginative, but the base composition is so sluggishly boring from a musical point of view that I don't see how any harmonic or rhythmic flourishes could ever save it.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:46 pm
Yeah, after Gone, it's probably my next least favorite.EJ wrote:World Wide Suicide sucks hard.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:47 pm
Gone is good.
The album version is better than the demo.
The album version is better than the demo.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:47 pm
The demo is superior to a turd, so it's still a turd anyway you hear it. It's also really boring live.theplatypus wrote:The demo is still bad. Of course the band arrangement in the album version is lazy and unimaginative, but the base composition is so sluggishly boring from a musical point of view that I don't see how any harmonic or rhythmic flourishes could ever save it.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:51 pm
The Gone demo is great, far from a turd. Very atmospheric.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:51 pm
I rarely listen to it, but I really like about half the songs. Marker, LW, Parachutes, Severed Hand, Unemployable, and Army Reserve are my glass half full outlook.doone wrote:I can't say I ever listen to it anymore.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Really? This album has aged well for medoone wrote:gawd, this is so hard, I hate so many of them.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:55 pm
Calling it a turd was probably a little too far. I just listened to the demo, I do indeed like it better than the full band version. The vibe of the song comes across more. The demo is actually pretty solid.Anders wrote:The Gone demo is great, far from a turd. Very atmospheric.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:56 pm
darth_vedder wrote:Calling it a turd was probably a little too far. I just listened to the demo, I do indeed like it better than the full band version. The vibe of the song comes across more. The demo is actually pretty solid.Anders wrote:The Gone demo is great, far from a turd. Very atmospheric.
In the far off distance
As my tail-lights fade
No one thinks to witness
But they will someday
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:58 pm
Shit, I forgot Big Wave. Idarth_vedder wrote:I rarely listen to it, but I really like about half the songs. Marker, LW, Parachutes, Severed Hand, Unemployable, and Army Reserve are my glass half full outlook.doone wrote:I can't say I ever listen to it anymore.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Really? This album has aged well for medoone wrote:gawd, this is so hard, I hate so many of them.
that one.Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 2:58 pm
Not a bad list. I would have Come Back in there as well.darth_vedder wrote:I rarely listen to it, but I really like about half the songs. Marker, LW, Parachutes, Severed Hand, Unemployable, and Army Reserve are my glass half full outlook.doone wrote:I can't say I ever listen to it anymore.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Really? This album has aged well for medoone wrote:gawd, this is so hard, I hate so many of them.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 3:22 pm
Unemployable
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Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 3:41 pm
Good things about "Unemployable":
- Matt's nifty ride cymbal work in the intro and middle 8
- Vocal harmonies in the chorus
- Contrapuntal arpeggios in the chorus
- The shift up into the "I've seen the light" section
- The cool high-up bass in the outro, giving the song a whole new color
Honestly it's far from one of my favorite PJ songs; the lyrics are pretty bad, I don't like the verses, and the "oh-oh-oh-oh" part really does sound like Shania Twain. But it's got enough interesting details about it that I still prefer it over 75% of an album where the whole approach seems to have been "nevermind details, let's rawk"
- Matt's nifty ride cymbal work in the intro and middle 8
- Vocal harmonies in the chorus
- Contrapuntal arpeggios in the chorus
- The shift up into the "I've seen the light" section
- The cool high-up bass in the outro, giving the song a whole new color
Honestly it's far from one of my favorite PJ songs; the lyrics are pretty bad, I don't like the verses, and the "oh-oh-oh-oh" part really does sound like Shania Twain. But it's got enough interesting details about it that I still prefer it over 75% of an album where the whole approach seems to have been "nevermind details, let's rawk"
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 3:49 pm
WTF is wrong with you?stip wrote:Unemployable
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 3:49 pm
Birds in Hell wrote:Easy vote for Come Back.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 3:52 pm
Yeah...the demo and the full band take are both very unremarkable.theplatypus wrote:The demo is still bad. Of course the band arrangement in the album version is lazy and unimaginative, but the base composition is so sluggishly boring from a musical point of view that I don't see how any harmonic or rhythmic flourishes could ever save it.
Really, I think this record holds up fairly well up to and include Unemployable. It just starts to fumble in the back half, IMO.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 4:32 pm
I love Unemloyable so much.
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 4:38 pm
The lyrics ruin anything good about ittheplatypus wrote:Good things about "Unemployable":
- Matt's nifty ride cymbal work in the intro and middle 8
- Vocal harmonies in the chorus
- Contrapuntal arpeggios in the chorus
- The shift up into the "I've seen the light" section
- The cool high-up bass in the outro, giving the song a whole new color
Honestly it's far from one of my favorite PJ songs; the lyrics are pretty bad, I don't like the verses, and the "oh-oh-oh-oh" part really does sound like Shania Twain. But it's got enough interesting details about it that I still prefer it over 75% of an album where the whole approach seems to have been "nevermind details, let's rawk"
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 5:47 pm
Army Reserve
Re: S/T Survivor: Round 1
Posted: Fri March 16, 2018 6:10 pm
EJ wrote:World Wide Suicide sucks hard.