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Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Fri April 19, 2013 10:06 pm
by epilogue
What do they themselves know?
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Fri April 19, 2013 10:15 pm
by dkfan9
Lament wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Merkinball feels much more like a dusting off of Vitalogy's workbench than it feels like the preliminary foundations for No Code.
I kinda think Merkinball feels like the seeds of the album #4 they decided not to make. I Got Shit, Long Road, Falling Down, Open Road, Red Mosquito, Lukin, Habit, Brain of J...the stuff that appeared in 1995 suggests that there may have initially been a very different direction they had in mind for the next record. There's probably a great alternate album to be put together there.
Very cool. And I think Stone wrote "Bayleaf around that time as well--it seems to fit in that sound.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Fri April 19, 2013 10:20 pm
by VinylGuy
dkfan9 wrote:Lament wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Merkinball feels much more like a dusting off of Vitalogy's workbench than it feels like the preliminary foundations for No Code.
I kinda think Merkinball feels like the seeds of the album #4 they decided not to make. I Got Shit, Long Road, Falling Down, Open Road, Red Mosquito, Lukin, Habit, Brain of J...the stuff that appeared in 1995 suggests that there may have initially been a very different direction they had in mind for the next record. There's probably a great alternate album to be put together there.
Very cool. And I think Stone wrote "Bayleaf around that time as well--it seems to fit in that sound.
i think Bayleaf was written from 1998 to 2000.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Fri April 19, 2013 10:22 pm
by epilogue
I think Bayleaf is better than the last two Pearl Jam albums. There, I said it.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Fri April 19, 2013 10:47 pm
by verb_to_trust
durdencommatyler wrote:I think Bayleaf is better than the last two Pearl Jam albums. There, I said it.
Co Sign
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 12:18 am
by Norah
verb_to_trust wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I think Bayleaf is better than the last two Pearl Jam albums. There, I said it.
Co Sign
for sure
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 12:32 am
by Birds in Hell
Oh, no, I can't get onboard with that.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 12:33 am
by WtOB?
It's certainly better than Backspacer.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 12:42 am
by its_not_1974
Lament wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Merkinball feels much more like a dusting off of Vitalogy's workbench than it feels like the preliminary foundations for No Code.
I kinda think Merkinball feels like the seeds of the album #4 they decided not to make. I Got Shit, Long Road, Falling Down, Open Road, Red Mosquito, Lukin, Habit, Brain of J...the stuff that appeared in 1995 suggests that there may have initially been a very different direction they had in mind for the next record. There's probably a great alternate album to be put together there.
This makes a lot of fucking sense. Now I am sad.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 12:44 am
by TheDapperGent
its_not_1974 wrote:Lament wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Merkinball feels much more like a dusting off of Vitalogy's workbench than it feels like the preliminary foundations for No Code.
I kinda think Merkinball feels like the seeds of the album #4 they decided not to make. I Got Shit, Long Road, Falling Down, Open Road, Red Mosquito, Lukin, Habit, Brain of J...the stuff that appeared in 1995 suggests that there may have initially been a very different direction they had in mind for the next record. There's probably a great alternate album to be put together there.
This makes a lot of fucking sense. Now I am sad.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 1:46 am
by epilogue
Birds in Hell wrote:Oh, no, I can't get onboard with that.
Damnit, Speeno, don't fuck this up.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 4:21 am
by PHATJ
I'm not on board with that nonsense either. S/T is a really good album with terrible production. Backspacer is crappy (by Pearl Jam standards at least) but it is still better than Bayleaf. And I like Bayleaf.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 6:48 am
by WtOB?
1. S/T
2. Bayleaf
3. Backspacer
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 7:00 am
by nyquillyn
You guys are (S)tone-deaf. No way Bayleaf is better than the last 2 albums.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 11:28 am
by stip
once again spenno and I find some common ground
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sat April 20, 2013 1:24 pm
by epilogue
I might choose to put on those PJ albums more often, but Bayleaf is a more compelling, competent and satisfying listen. It's also a little bit harder to take, so it doesn't get the reps. But that's a good thing.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sun April 21, 2013 2:14 am
by WtOB?
Stone's voice sounds better to me on Bayleaf than Eddie's does on Backspacer.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sun April 21, 2013 2:15 am
by epilogue
WtOB? wrote:Stone's voice sounds better to me on Bayleaf than Eddie's does on Backspacer.
Agreed.
His guitar also sounds better than Ed's ever has.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sun April 21, 2013 3:28 am
by nyquillyn
I can understand saying that the guitars on a new Stone album would be more interesting than a new PJ album, but saying Stone's voice sounds better than Eddie's is all sorts of crazy.
Re: No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History
Posted: Sun April 21, 2013 3:31 am
by epilogue
turned2black wrote:I can understand saying that the guitars on a new Stone album would be more interesting than a new PJ album, but saying Stone's voice sounds better than Eddie's is all sorts of crazy.
I think Stone's voice is more interesting and cleaner on Bayleaf than Ed's on Backspacer. Pound for pound. There are exceptions, of course. But Stone sounds great on that record. And I love all the little flourishes -- the cool vocal layering and hidden sounds.
