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Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Fri June 29, 2018 10:17 pm
by Birds in Hell
I've always been kind of interested in hearing Deftones as I remember them name-dropping some really surprising influences (and Robert Smith seems to love them) but I think the Around the Fur album cover turned me off so much that I never investigated further. This song is pretty good, though - easy vote.
I've never knowingly heard any Slipknot before and this song did nothing for me.
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 6:49 pm
by Simple Torture
I know there's a lot of love for Deftones around here, but much like Spenno, I never really gave them a shake. But this is the one song I know and it's pretty good.
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:10 pm
by Jorge
My opinion of Deftones was marred for a long time by watching a subtitled version of that "I watched you change into a fly" song at 14 years old and thinking "THESE LYRICS ARE STUPID"
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:10 pm
by Jorge
And, well, "Back to School" didn't help
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:10 pm
by Jorge
But I like them now.
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:12 pm
by Jorge
Anyway, I voted for "Wait and Bleed" because I really like the chorus melody
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:13 pm
by Simple Torture
It's way better than "Spit It Out."
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:21 pm
by LoathedVermin72
theplatypus wrote:And, well, "Back to School" didn't help
Have you heard “Pink Maggit”?
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:26 pm
by Jorge
I'm listening to it now and I feel really tempted to change the play speed on this Youtube video to 1.5x
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:28 pm
by Jorge
This is the chorus to "Back to School"? Why did they do that? They just re-used their own chorus on a different song?
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:30 pm
by LoathedVermin72
theplatypus wrote:This is the chorus to "Back to School"? Why did they do that? They just re-used their own chorus on a different song?
Yeah, it’s weird. It’s why “Back to School” has “Mini Maggit” in parentheses. PM is an actual album track and BTS is not.
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 7:33 pm
by Jorge
Interesting
Vocalist Chino Moreno: "This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned in to the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then, they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it too."[5]
The band also specifically regretted the presence of "Back to School" on the re-release of the album, as Moreno stated in an interview with German rock magazine Visions: "'Back to School' was a mistake. A calculated song, that had been built up with only one aim in mind: It should be a single. ... 'Back to School' was released because I was an idiot. I wanted to prove something [to the record company]. Months later, after White Pony was released, they wanted us to do a new version of "Pink Maggit". They said we lost our heaviness, and there were no more singles on the album. First, I wanted to stick this idea up my ass, but then I thought: 'I'm gonna show those fuckers how easy it is to create a hit-single.' And so I rapped a hip hop part on that song, we shortened it and half an hour later, the hit-single was ready to roll on."[6]
Re: R1: My Own Summer vs. Wait and Bleed
Posted: Sat June 30, 2018 8:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
theplatypus wrote:And, well, "Back to School" didn't help
It helped that one guy...
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