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Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:51 pm
by Kevin Davis
Man in Black wrote:I think many of you are missing something here.
Please elaborate, o enlightened one.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 11:03 pm
by mastaflatch
Self wrote:I'm a big fan of his work with Cream, but he shines on the Mayall Blues Breakers record. As soon as he picked up a Strat, I mostly lost interest.
totally forgot about this one - it's a great album indeed.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:43 am
by Man in Black
Folks, you're listening to Clapton as if it's 2013, not 1969.

As such, you are vastly understating his influence.

Despite all that has followed, people recognize the impact and influence and innovation of the Beatles.

Assessing Clapton requires the same keen sense of history.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:52 am
by Kevin Davis
No it doesn't.

I'll concede Clapton's tremendous influence on a bunch of blues-rock guitarists who sound no more original than he does--many of them I prefer to Clapton himself. But the Beatles are also completely pleasurable on their own strictly musical terms--even if they had been an unknown band, their discography would still contain a ton of great songs.

I'm not interested in his influence; I'm far more interested in why you, as a listener, think his songs are compelling.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:56 am
by Fuzzcharger
mastaflatch wrote:
Self wrote:I'm a big fan of his work with Cream, but he shines on the Mayall Blues Breakers record. As soon as he picked up a Strat, I mostly lost interest.
totally forgot about this one - it's a great album indeed.
I saw a doco many years ago mentioning something about this album being the birth of the 'lead guitarist' so being a good student I spent a long time in the bedroom learning how to play along to it note for note. Same with Disraeli Gears.

The worst bit is now when I play lead guitar, unless I make a conscious effort to construct a lead part I end up sounding like every other bad white blues/rock guy. It's kinda frustrating.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:53 am
by mastaflatch
Fuzzcharger wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
Self wrote:I'm a big fan of his work with Cream, but he shines on the Mayall Blues Breakers record. As soon as he picked up a Strat, I mostly lost interest.
totally forgot about this one - it's a great album indeed.
I saw a doco many years ago mentioning something about this album being the birth of the 'lead guitarist' so being a good student I spent a long time in the bedroom learning how to play along to it note for note. Same with Disraeli Gears.

The worst bit is now when I play lead guitar, unless I make a conscious effort to construct a lead part I end up sounding like every other bad white blues/rock guy. It's kinda frustrating.
while i'm not a great lead guitarist, i know that changing modes for precise sections can give your solo a whole different flavor. and they're far more easy to understand than i thought they were. i like to throw a bit of dorian here and there myself :)

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:48 am
by bada
You guys should post some stuff on the Release Board.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:07 am
by Fuzzcharger
mastaflatch wrote:while i'm not a great lead guitarist, i know that changing modes for precise sections can give your solo a whole different flavor. and they're far more easy to understand than i thought they were. i like to throw a bit of dorian here and there myself :)
Im terrible on knowing any actual theory. I usually just hear something and try work it out by ear or use a guitar tab. I know a bunch of solos note-for-note but I couldn't play a scale if you asked me to.
bada wrote:You guys should post some stuff on the Release Board.
I've got a new album being finished at the moment so I will post something up there when it's 100% ready for public consumption.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:19 pm
by stompbox
Clapton was a good guitar player, but he is mind numbingly boring these days (and has been for 35+ years). Good lord the 80's were ebarassing.

Clapton's saving grace was Duane Allman. Duane was a visionary and an incredibly illustrative player. He pushed Clapton to reach for new grounds when he played with him.

Man in Black wrote:Folks, you're listening to Clapton as if it's 2013, not 1969.

As such, you are vastly understating his influence.

Despite all that has followed, people recognize the impact and influence and innovation of the Beatles.

Assessing Clapton requires the same keen sense of history.
Innovation? This makes me LOL. All he did was recycle the blues that he grew up listeing to. Atleast players like Hendrix and SRV took the blues that they learned and reinvented it. Here we are 40 years later and this is still his schtick.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:22 pm
by Fuzzcharger
The solo's on this totally slay, but I believe it's mostly Duane Allman.


Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:26 pm
by stompbox
Fuzzcharger wrote:The solo's on this totally slay, but I believe it's mostly Duane Allman.

Duane was the brains in that project, without a doubt.

Check out the new 7 disc Duane boxset, it is mindblowing what he accomplished by his death at 24...... 24 fucking years old! We all know what he did in the Allman Brothers band which was amazing, but his studio work is lenghty as well!




Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:59 pm
by warehouse
i read he was in a band w/ steve winwood...anyone know about this?

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:46 pm
by Oh, Jimmy
warehouse wrote:i read he was in a band w/ steve winwood...anyone know about this?
Blind Faith...Presence of the Lord and Can't Find My Way Home are probably their best known tracks.

Another of his bands that kick the crap out all his solo work.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:03 pm
by stompbox
Oh, Jimmy wrote:
warehouse wrote:i read he was in a band w/ steve winwood...anyone know about this?
Blind Faith...Presence of the Lord and Can't Find My Way Home are probably their best known tracks.

Another of his bands that kick the crap out all his solo work.
Agreed. I don't remember where I read it, but I recall Clapton said he learned in incredible amount about playing from Steve. Steve is a great guitar player although he is best known as a keyboardist.

The two still collaborate from time to time, this is a great track:


Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:41 pm
by rick malone
Badge is in the running of best live songs in rock music history.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:41 am
by wease
rick malone wrote:Badge is in the running of best live songs in rock music history.
I cannot disagree with this.

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Thu July 22, 2021 1:32 pm
by psychobain
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/10192100 ... cebook.com

Eric Clapton Says He Won't Play Venues That Require COVID Vaccines


good musician, stupid person

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Thu July 22, 2021 3:49 pm
by Strat
*overrated musician, stupid person

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Thu July 22, 2021 9:20 pm
by wease
Goddammit strat

Re: Clapton, Eric

Posted: Fri July 23, 2021 12:46 am
by Norah
strat is right