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Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 3:24 am
by nightmareblack0206
Point is BS without 10

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 11:14 am
by stip
cutuphalfdead wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:ARE YOU PEOPLE FKN NUTS FOR BASING YOUR OPINION WITHOUT 10?!
You're kind of missing the point of the thread.

Chud's right. When Ten came out no one knew who Pearl Jam was. The single did not get any immediate attention. The calculations involved would have been different from the ones made in subsequent albums. The single is not communicating with an established audience.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 11:36 am
by nightmareblack0206
So in late 92/early 93 when JEREMY, YL, ALIVE, EF were tearing up the charts, your telling me that is un equatable? Come on. ...

There wasn't a "established audience" in 1992-release of VS? LMFAO. ....THAT'S RICH

They had the biggest audience of fans during this time.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 12:06 pm
by stip
nightmareblack0206 wrote:So in late 92/early 93 when JEREMY, YL, ALIVE, EF were tearing up the charts, your telling me that is un equatable? Come on. ...
I think you might be missing what this thread is going after. Singles as a first impression. Ten was a slow starter, without a built in audience. The inital singles didn't make much of an impression, and the subsequent singles aren't what this thread is about.
nightmareblack0206 wrote: There wasn't a "established audience" in 1992-release of VS? LMFAO. ....THAT'S RICH

They had the biggest audience of fans during this time.
Which is why I did include the vs. single

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 12:17 pm
by nightmareblack0206
I understand that you guys are leaving 10 out BUT let's do it this way. Let's USE 10 single just at the point when they became relevant. CANNOT EXCLUDE 10

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 12:18 pm
by nightmareblack0206
VS single wasn't released till late 93

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 1:32 pm
by NancyBabich
Who You Are hints that No Code will be more No Codeish than it actually is.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 2:02 pm
by McParadigm
NancyBabich wrote:Who You Are hints that No Code will be more No Codeish than it actually is.
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH 10

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 2:03 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:Singles as a first impression.
Dave Grohl said his first impression of PJ after hearing "Alive" on the radio was that they sounded like a bunch of truckers.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Sun June 02, 2013 5:48 pm
by nightmareblack0206
McParadigm wrote:
NancyBabich wrote:Who You Are hints that No Code will be more No Codeish than it actually is.
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH 10
LMFAO

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 12:19 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
The Fixer is definitely indicative of how terrible that album is.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 12:35 pm
by nightmareblack0206
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:Singles as a first impression.
Dave Grohl said his first impression of PJ after hearing "Alive" on the radio was that they sounded like a bunch of truckers.
You do know that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana right? A band which was candidly critical of PJ since day 1

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 12:53 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
nightmareblack0206 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:Singles as a first impression.
Dave Grohl said his first impression of PJ after hearing "Alive" on the radio was that they sounded like a bunch of truckers.
You do know that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana right? A band which was candidly critical of PJ since day 1
Dave Grohl drummed for Nirvana?! :shock:

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 1:09 pm
by mastaflatch
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:Singles as a first impression.
Dave Grohl said his first impression of PJ after hearing "Alive" on the radio was that they sounded like a bunch of truckers.
You do know that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana right? A band which was candidly critical of PJ since day 1
Dave Grohl drummed for Nirvana?! :shock:
and he was pretty good at it!

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 1:48 pm
by Thejambi
In most cases these are not the best songs on their respective albums, but are they indicative of those albums?
Regardless of lack of audience or expectations, doesn't Ten still fit the mold of this exercise? To answer this question, the album has to have been listened to in order to evaluate how the lead single represents that album. This really wasn't a first impressions thread...or was it?

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 2:34 pm
by @SkitchP
in the coonlight.


just 'cause

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 6:34 pm
by Kevin Davis
nightmareblack0206 wrote:You do know that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana right?
No, you must be thinking of someone else. Dave Grohl is the lead singer for Foo Fighters.

See:
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Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 6:37 pm
by warehouse
nightmareblack0206 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:Singles as a first impression.
Dave Grohl said his first impression of PJ after hearing "Alive" on the radio was that they sounded like a bunch of truckers.
You do know that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana right? A band which was candidly critical of PJ since day 1
u know he played drums w pearl jam right?

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Mon June 03, 2013 6:39 pm
by nightmareblack0206
That he did.

Re: Pearl Jam's first singles

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:42 am
by Coach
Bump