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Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 2:51 pm
by ABNorman
Alright, alright, alright.

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:08 pm
by mikejasond
Bammer wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:I would have said No, but then I thought of:
Know a man his face seemed pulled and tense
Like he's riding on a motorbike in the strongest winds
That's a simile, not an analogy.

Source: I have a PhD in English and that's all it's good for.
ST is right. That’s, like, for sure a simile.
A simile like “imperceptibly big, big as the ocean” though the ocean is not imperceptibly big so another dud *shakes head*

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:10 pm
by Jorge
But it's not saying it's imperceptible like the ocean.

There are two statements:

It is imperceptably big
and
It is big as the ocean

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:20 pm
by mikejasond
theplatypus wrote:But it's not saying it's imperceptible like the ocean.

There are two statements:

It is imperceptably big
and
It is big as the ocean
I took it more like imperceptibly big: big as the ocean.

But the ocean is not imperceptibly big. It’s very perceptible it’s not like the universe or something. But this is secondary to the point of the thread which is that Eddie shoves four random words together and tries to make it an analogy

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:21 pm
by Jorge
I'll get on Ed's ass for clunky songwriting any day but so far the only real example of a bad or confusing analogy I've seen here is the one about confusion and commotion. The others make sense to me.

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:23 pm
by mikejasond
theplatypus wrote:I'll get on Ed's ass for clunky songwriting any day but so far the only real example of a bad or confusing analogy I've seen here is the one about confusion and commotion. The others make sense to me.
What does the north south one mean?

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 6:35 pm
by Jessica Fletcher
While they are related and intertwined, north and south are opposites. He’s comparing the relationship of a clock and time to two things that are opposite. As in, the clock doesn’t have much to do with time.
The East/west/everywhere life builds to the point that life, rather than the measurement or quantification of it, is what’s important.
And also, time doesn’t exist.

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 7:03 pm
by Leatherhead
This is petty shit to complain about. An analogy doesn't need to be perfect to work in a song, or even a poem. Lyrics aren't published scholarly articles. If they evoke, emote, and get the message across, then they've done their job.

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 7:30 pm
by Strat
Leatherhead wrote:This is petty shit to complain about. An analogy doesn't need to be perfect to work in a song, or even a poem. Lyrics aren't published scholarly articles. If they evoke, emote, and get the message across, then they've done their job.
Oh, you've obviously never met the mikejasond account

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 7:35 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Counterpoint: what if he’s saying “perceptibly big”

Re: Does Eddie Vedder actually know what an analogy is?

Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 12:45 am
by numbers
Eddie dropped out before they got to analogies.