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Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:31 pm
by tree_
theplatypus wrote:That's not necessarily the case. Could be a contrapuntal little flourish
lol we're talking about a PJ Cameron beat. 100% after the fills. No doubt. Can't believe you're questioning this. Unbelievable.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:34 pm
by Jorge
Okay calm down. Matt can get a little off kilter too. He wrote "Evacuation" ffs

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:36 pm
by tree_
Matt can definitely get very creative and off kilter. The problem is, if he throws in a contrapuntal fill it would confuse Ed. That's the only excuse I can think of for all his boring 4/4 PJ beats.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:47 pm
by FlatSideofaDog
tree_ wrote:Matt can definitely get very creative and off kilter. The problem is, if he throws in a contrapuntal fill it would confuse Ed. That's the only excuse I can think of for all his boring 4/4 PJ beats.
Yes a contrapuntal fill would confuse the singer and so is a no go, that's reasonable.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:53 pm
by tree_
Ed to Matt, "That was cool... But think... more Ramones, ehhhhh?"

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:57 pm
by VinylGuy
" uhh try to...keep the beat...more like uhhh the who or something. Or Ramones...or like the ocean"

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 1:57 pm
by tree_
"think... WATER... yeahh... you ever surf? Think surfing"

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:00 pm
by FlatSideofaDog
Haven't seen this suggested yet but what is Matt is drumming the way he wants to in pj?

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:01 pm
by Ms Harmless
to find the 1, listen to where the crash cymbals are

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:04 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Ms Harmless wrote:to find the 1, listen to where the crash cymbals are
btw, we had a birthday thread for you in GD. Didn't want you to think we missed it. Happy belated birthday.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:11 pm
by Ms Harmless
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:to find the 1, listen to where the crash cymbals are
btw, we had a birthday thread for you in GD. Didn't want you to think we missed it. Happy belated birthday.
my memory is shot, GD? thanks :)

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:15 pm
by Anders
General Discussion / Garbage Dump

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:17 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders wrote:General Discussion / Garbage Dump
ooooh OK cool

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:29 pm
by warehouse
eddie vedder is a terrible musician

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:35 pm
by FlatSideofaDog
There is not a strong correlation between musicianship and songwriting ability. He's brings the latter to the band. The best muscians in the world are people we've never heard of because they can't write songs.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:50 pm
by Mike
I think Eddie's biggest weakness is his uninventive guitar playing.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 2:58 pm
by EJ
I'm digging the sound of this clip. The searing guitar underneath is very Soundgarden to my ears.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 3:01 pm
by Strat
Mike wrote:I think Eddie's biggest weakness is his uninventive guitar playing.
I mean, most of the greatest songs in the world are three chords.

I think eds lack of guitar knowledge is actually a strength. Im not saying he's a strong guitar player, though he's gotten much better, but a song like grievance to guaranteed, to betterman, to end of the road, 4/20, mfc, sometimes...

thats a pretty wide range of guitar song writing.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 3:08 pm
by Royalearth
EJ wrote:I'm digging the sound of this clip. The searing guitar underneath is very Soundgarden to my ears.
Im enjoying that little guitar part as well.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed March 18, 2020 3:09 pm
by digster
Strat wrote:
Mike wrote:I think Eddie's biggest weakness is his uninventive guitar playing.
I mean, most of the greatest songs in the world are three chords.

I think eds lack of guitar knowledge is actually a strength. Im not saying he's a strong guitar player, though he's gotten much better, but a song like grievance to guaranteed, to betterman, to end of the road, 4/20, mfc, sometimes...

thats a pretty wide range of guitar song writing.
I think when he's good, he can be really good and inventive; if you just play the Insignificance parts on guitar, even though it's simple for the most part it's still pretty striking. But I think he can also be a little unimaginative, or to put it a better way, I think it can sound like he lets the first idea just be the idea without much (if any) revision. Sometimes that works, but I think sometimes things need more refinement.