Red Mosquito

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 12:49 pm**

SBWM. The worst.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 12:55 pm**

Pretty easily Never Destination. SBWM is better than 2 or 3 other songs on this for sure.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:02 pm**

theplatypus wrote:"Superblood Wolfmoon" is just an utterly inept song in a dozen different ways. It's not only the worst song on Gigaton by some distance but one of the worst things they've ever done.

maybe you're one of the worst things they've ever done. Have you thought about that?

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:07 pm**

reconstruction_ seeds wrote:
theplatypus wrote:"Superblood Wolfmoon" is just an utterly inept song in a dozen different ways. It's not only the worst song on Gigaton by some distance but one of the worst things they've ever done.

I'm not good at breaking down what goes on in a song but maybe you can help me understand this song better. if i compare this to sonething like green day's when i come around, for example, they're both fun tunes (though i dont like when i come around) with vocals that could be either loved or hated but sbwm doesn't sound limited to the same riff throughout the song and has a guitar solo which perfectly fits the energetic pace of the song. Would you hate sbwm if the vocals were done by one of your favorite singers? The song is wordy but but for someone who doesn't mind the style it has plenty of hooks in the lyrics and there's enough guitar highlights in it to keep my focus. I get it though, if the guitars were busier in when i come around i would still despise the song because i hate the vocals.

If nothing else, sbwm adds variety to the album in a fun/Hitchiker kind of way?

The lyrics are generally very good, and there are really nice quickfire melodies he delivers them with. I like the rave up energy, and since the song itself is someone grappling with and rejecting their own sense of entitlement the slightly bratty quality to it works well. The main riff is pretty basic, but there is a harshness to it that gives it a little edge and there are a bunch of great little moments throughout where the rest of the band is coloring in the spaces really well.

It doesn't embrace a traditional v-c-v-c song structure despite feeling like a simple song, so it can end up playing like a mini highlight reel rather than a full fledged song. But I really dig most of those highlights. I listen to this constantly and I don't really find myself listening to the song as much as I find myself excited for the next part, if that makes sense.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:11 pm**

the single most frustrating thing about SBWM is the lyrics, not because they're bad but because the speaker of the song delivers them like "listen up! this story is really important!", almost with the urgency and force of something like "Corduroy" (my favourite ever PJ song), but I *still* have no idea what the song is about; I was hoping that our speculations and theories as to the story here would arrive at something, but they never did

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:17 pm**

The fact that there are any votes for Buckle Up is a damned travesty.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:18 pm**

ABNorman wrote:The fact that there are any votes for Buckle Up is a damned travesty.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:21 pm**

reconstruction_ seeds wrote:
theplatypus wrote:"Superblood Wolfmoon" is just an utterly inept song in a dozen different ways. It's not only the worst song on Gigaton by some distance but one of the worst things they've ever done.

I'm not good at breaking down what goes on in a song but maybe you can help me understand this song better. if i compare this to sonething like green day's when i come around, for example, they're both fun tunes (though i dont like when i come around) with vocals that could be either loved or hated but sbwm doesn't sound limited to the same riff throughout the song and has a guitar solo which perfectly fits the energetic pace of the song. Would you hate sbwm if the vocals were done by one of your favorite singers? The song is wordy but but for someone who doesn't mind the style it has plenty of hooks in the lyrics and there's enough guitar highlights in it to keep my focus. I get it though, if the guitars were busier in when i come around i would still despise the song because i hate the vocals.

If nothing else, sbwm adds variety to the album in a fun/Hitchiker kind of way?

I don't find SBWM fun, mostly just a jumbled mess of half-written hooks that the band trudges through haphazardly. The lyrics are whatever

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 1:22 pm**

I think the first three songs really set the stage for the themes of the rest of the album. That in the face of grief, confusion, anger, frustration, and a palpable sense that the world isn't giving you what you need, that it's not really about you. It's about us. And that a large and complex world isn't going to make sense just because you need it to. The only way through it is together.

Listen to SBWM and imagine the singer working through that process

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:28 pm**

Retrograde. I find it completely forgettable. I even listened to it a few more times last night and nothing is sticking.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:40 pm**

Never Destination. It feels generic to me. There's nothing there that really stands out for me. I at least enjoy the solo and some of the lyrics for SBWM.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:41 pm**

theplatypus wrote:"Superblood Wolfmoon" is just an utterly inept song in a dozen different ways. It's not only the worst song on Gigaton by some distance but one of the worst things they've ever done.

yes

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:42 pm**

The verses on Seven O’Clock are also in that territory for me

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:42 pm**

durdencommatyler wrote:Buckle Up

Stop!

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 3:44 pm**

LoathedVermin72 wrote:
theplatypus wrote:"Superblood Wolfmoon" is just an utterly inept song in a dozen different ways. It's not only the worst song on Gigaton by some distance but one of the worst things they've ever done.
yes

I particularly love its Springsteen influences!

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 4:04 pm**

Not voting in this one for now.

For the first time in a long time there is no obvious clunker for me. Strong album front to back and don't want to skip any. This could change after further listens.

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 4:09 pm**

nothing bad! nothing bad! nothing bad! nothing baaa-yaa-yaa-yaa-yaa-yaa-yaaaaaad

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 4:11 pm**

my candidates are SBWM and Retrograde. but here's the thing - the final 1m50s of Retrograde is actually sublime. so it's like 2/3 a piece of shit and 1/3 incredible.

i guess that means i'm voting for SBWM, which i don't hate.

or maybe i'm voting for the first 2/3 of Retrograde, which is genuinely pretty damn bad.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 4:13 pm**

SBWM is so ridiculously fun and catchy as hell. The twists and turns of the song are just a riot.

You people are INSANE

Posted: **Sat March 21, 2020 4:16 pm**

evenslow wrote:my candidates are SBWM and Retrograde. but here's the thing - the final 1m50s of Retrograde is actually sublime. so it's like 2/3 a piece of shit and 1/3 incredible.

i guess that means i'm voting for SBWM, which i don't hate.

or maybe i'm voting for the first 2/3 of Retrograde, which is genuinely pretty damn bad.

Spoiler: show

Agree on Retrograde. It gets off to a rough start, but the ending redeems it somewhat.

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