Red Mosquito

Jimmy Page would have replaced Mike, no?

The Argonaut wrote:Jimmy Page would have replaced Mike, no?

Probably cuz Page seemed to have that ego but he and mike would have worked/sounded better than he and Stone, i think.

I'd even take something like this from Pearl Jam if they would give it:

Bron-Yr-Aur
https://youtu.be/2YZ_lIpG1XQ

they should cover 'fool in the rain' again

warehouse wrote:they should cover 'fool in the rain' again

I'm standing in the rain right now and I don't know what the hell you're talking about! When did they cover this song?

Fucker I'm Gonna Save You

The only thing that bothers me about Page is his playing seems to good to be legitimate, which means he could have made a deal with the dark side, which means i dont know who deserves the song writing credit, him or Satan.

Ms Harmless wrote:Fucker I'm Gonna Save You

You are my kitten.

I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

Brett wrote:I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

Or is it just that they need more occultism, hard drug use, and abusive sex in their lives?

Brett wrote:I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

the poster clearly thinks pj's guitar players and their work fall way short in comparison to the lord of the riffs.

i do not get the point of the post either, especially the list. everyone knows stone loves page, but even still he's never been a copy cat to that extreme. i feel like maybe the poster doesn't actually know pj's style. besides, this weird shit is breaking up the "gigaton" polls/chats.

Brett wrote:I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

look man, my favorite existing band , Pearl Jam, just released a great album. It's catchy as hell.if lz hadn't existedi id probably have no complaints . I'm frustrated. I hope I'm just having a boring week and thatt it has nothing to do with gigaton ... but I fear it pushed me into another Led Zeppelin phase. I know I'll get back to listening to gigaton some but LZ is all i feel like listening to now. During the lead-up to gigatons release I focused on the album length and LZ comparison rumors. I feel like a kid who was promised Cracker Jacks but reached into the box only to find mushy, uncooked mountain oysters.

For me, instrumentation is the foundation of an album and quality vocals are just a bonus.
Regarding instrumentation, I like the atmospherics in 0700, the short heavy jam in Quick Escape, Matt and Jeff in Quick Escape, the outro in retrograde, the catchty guitar chord in retrograde, DOTC, Ed's short intro/outro in Comes then goes, mikes solos, etc but none of it is nearly enough for what i want on the next album! PJ have been at this for how many years now?! I want an album that will impress the legendary Jimmy Page!

I get it, these songs wouldn't sound right With the kind of instrumentation I'm wanting and I'm glad these songs exist but I want what I want and I'm here venting about it. All will be good if they give me a Led Zeppelin album next time around!

I think Greta Van Fleet's band name is dumb and they currently suck but if those kids ever figure out how to write songs...if Pearl Jam dont want to get showed up by a group of kids they better improve in all aspects.

Led Zeppelin is just defined by the riffs they have produced. It's nuts. All classics.

I'm almost 2 years into learning guitar and about 80% of the riffs I (try) to learn are Led Zeppelin. They just have some many awesome riffs to learn and it's fun as hell to recreate them (amateurishly) at home.


I think the most apt-comparison between PJ and LZ are the first three albusms. Then it kinda drops off. Not in terms of songs sounding the same, but it feels like there were more riffs in the first three PJ albums then the last few

blueviper wrote:Led Zeppelin is just defined by the riffs they have produced. It's nuts. All classics.

I'm almost 2 years into learning guitar and about 80% of the riffs I (try) to learn are Led Zeppelin. They just have some many awesome riffs to learn and it's fun as hell to recreate them (amateurishly) at home.


I think the most apt-comparison between PJ and LZ are the first three albusms. Then it kinda drops off. Not in terms of songs sounding the same, but it feels like there were more riffs in the first three PJ albums then the last few

What significant guitar work in sudio, other than some solos and some short memorable opening riffs here and there, have we gotten from this band? Yellow Ledbetter, the guitar interludes in off he goes and Who You Are. What else? Maybe the Present Tense outro but that's pushing it.

These guys have THREE guitarists plus a bassist who chimes in on guitar? They have Jam in their band title. 2 or 3 short guitar interludes plus YLB. 30 yrs.

Ok, rant over. I still love pearl jam and gigaton. They need to bring the instrumentation (guitar) on the next album.

They NEED to do whatever the hell they want. They are not a Led Zep cover band, and that's a good thing. Mike says he's working on finger-picking and singing now. Who knows if that will translate to the next PJ album, but if it does, I'll happily give it a chance. Jimmy Page was awesome but also stole a lot from previous musicians. That is one of the reasons I can forgive Given To Fly for being Going To California, and one of the reasons I am glad that PJ doesn't make a habit of copying other sounds, even as they show their influences on the regular.

reconstruction_ seeds wrote:

Brett wrote:I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

look man, my favorite existing band , Pearl Jam, just released a great album. It's catchy as hell.if lz hadn't existedi id probably have no complaints . I'm frustrated. I hope I'm just having a boring week and thatt it has nothing to do with gigaton ... but I fear it pushed me into another Led Zeppelin phase. I know I'll get back to listening to gigaton some but LZ is all i feel like listening to now. During the lead-up to gigatons release I focused on the album length and LZ comparison rumors. I feel like a kid who was promised Cracker Jacks but reached into the box only to find mushy, uncooked mountain oysters.

For me, instrumentation is the foundation of an album and quality vocals are just a bonus.
Regarding instrumentation, I like the atmospherics in 0700, the short heavy jam in Quick Escape, Matt and Jeff in Quick Escape, the outro in retrograde, the catchty guitar chord in retrograde, DOTC, Ed's short intro/outro in Comes then goes, mikes solos, etc but none of it is nearly enough for what i want on the next album! PJ have been at this for how many years now?! I want an album that will impress the legendary Jimmy Page!

I get it, these songs wouldn't sound right With the kind of instrumentation I'm wanting and I'm glad these songs exist but I want what I want and I'm here venting about it. All will be good if they give me a Led Zeppelin album next time around!

I think Greta Van Fleet's band name is dumb and they currently suck but if those kids ever figure out how to write songs...if Pearl Jam dont want to get showed up by a group of kids they better improve in all aspects.

Greta Van Fleet? The vocalist is great and they are good at doing kid-Zep stuff but as musicians they are seriously limited.

FlatSideofaDog wrote:

reconstruction_ seeds wrote:

Brett wrote:I've never really noticed much similarity between Zeppelin and Pearl Jam, so I don't really understand the point of this thread. Is it just meant to point out that Pearl Jam's guitar players aren't as technically adept as Jimmy Page?

look man, my favorite existing band , Pearl Jam, just released a great album. It's catchy as hell.if lz hadn't existedi id probably have no complaints . I'm frustrated. I hope I'm just having a boring week and thatt it has nothing to do with gigaton ... but I fear it pushed me into another Led Zeppelin phase. I know I'll get back to listening to gigaton some but LZ is all i feel like listening to now. During the lead-up to gigatons release I focused on the album length and LZ comparison rumors. I feel like a kid who was promised Cracker Jacks but reached into the box only to find mushy, uncooked mountain oysters.

For me, instrumentation is the foundation of an album and quality vocals are just a bonus.
Regarding instrumentation, I like the atmospherics in 0700, the short heavy jam in Quick Escape, Matt and Jeff in Quick Escape, the outro in retrograde, the catchty guitar chord in retrograde, DOTC, Ed's short intro/outro in Comes then goes, mikes solos, etc but none of it is nearly enough for what i want on the next album! PJ have been at this for how many years now?! I want an album that will impress the legendary Jimmy Page!

I get it, these songs wouldn't sound right With the kind of instrumentation I'm wanting and I'm glad these songs exist but I want what I want and I'm here venting about it. All will be good if they give me a Led Zeppelin album next time around!

I think Greta Van Fleet's band name is dumb and they currently suck but if those kids ever figure out how to write songs...if Pearl Jam dont want to get showed up by a group of kids they better improve in all aspects.

Greta Van Fleet? The vocalist is great and they are good at doing kid-Zep stuff but as musicians they are seriously limited.

Yeah, the vocalist is great but thr song writing is pretty uninspired/lacking/uninteresting. Their playing might be good though, maybe the solos, not sure how they are on chords- I havent listened to them in awhile.

reconstruction_ seeds wrote:What significant guitar work in sudio, other than some solos and some short memorable opening riffs here and there, have we gotten from this band? Yellow Ledbetter, the guitar interludes in off he goes and Who You Are. What else? Maybe the Present Tense outro but that's pushing it.

Iconic or great guitar work?

Alive, Even Flow, Animal, Spin the Black Circle, Red Mosquito, Nothing as it Seems...

RockPusher wrote:They NEED to do whatever the hell they want. They are not a Led Zep cover band, and that's a good thing. Mike says he's working on finger-picking and singing now. Who knows if that will translate to the next PJ album, but if it does, I'll happily give it a chance. Jimmy Page was awesome but also stole a lot from previous musicians. That is one of the reasons I can forgive Given To Fly for being Going To California, and one of the reasons I am glad that PJ doesn't make a habit of copying other sounds, even as they show their influences on the regular.

Seriously. PJ was never trying to be Led Zeppelin (THANKFULLY!!) and I sure as shit don’t want that from them now! And I never did. This reconstruction_seeds poster wants this band to prove itself by being something it wasn’t created to be and has never has intended or aspired to be.

Mike McCready should be Mike McCready. Whatever that means and whichever influences he wants to incorporate into his playing.

Not attempting to be Jimmy Page is ZERO percent a negative. Having influences that range from Page, to Freely, to Hendrix, SRV, Gilmour, punk bands, hair bands, metal, and more, and developing all those things into the sound that is Mike McCready and distinctly Pearl Jam is infinitely more impressive than playing a shit ton of chords like Jimmy Page.

Fuck that noise. Fuck this thread.