Red Mosquito

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

so did you escape and de-program yourself, or did you have help?

Mostly deprogrammed myself in my late teens, with a little help from

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ghost wrote:

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

so did you escape and de-program yourself, or did you have help?

Mostly deprogrammed myself in my late teens, with a little help from

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Did you go direct to PJ or rely on some kind of intermediary step, like an early U2 ?

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

so did you escape and de-program yourself, or did you have help?

Mostly deprogrammed myself in my late teens, with a little help from

Spoiler: show

.

Did you go direct to PJ or rely on some kind of intermediary step, like an early U2 ?

U2 actually came later. The intermediary step was slightly edgier christian rock, like these absolute badasses:

surfndestroy wrote:
Biggest regrets for shows missed
John Mellencamp, Lonesome Jubilee Tour - sold out

I was considering doing a discog listen to Mellencamp. There's a heap of early albums though. Should I bother with the whole lot or just do the American Fool through Big Daddy run?

First 3 shows:

Ozzfest 2004 (Black Sabbath, Slipknot, Judas Priest, Slayer, Lamb of God, Zakk Wylde, etc)
Metallica with Godsmack opening in 2004
Korn with Chevelle and Breaking Benjamin opening in 2004

Last 3 shows:

Tool with Killing Joke opening in November
Iron Maiden in August
Wu-Tang Clan in June

Favorite 3 shows:

Too many to name, I’ll think about it

Don’t care about seeing Pearl Jam

Regret not seeing Type O Negative, Soundgarden and Stone Temple Pilots when they had Scott Weiland back

LetMeSleep wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
Biggest regrets for shows missed
John Mellencamp, Lonesome Jubilee Tour - sold out

I was considering doing a discog listen to Mellencamp. There's a heap of early albums though. Should I bother with the whole lot or just do the American Fool through Big Daddy run?

I think you're on the right track. Maybe a quick review of the highlights from John Cougar and Nothin' Matters; I Need A Lover, Ain't Even Done With The Night,

I think the 1990's output is worth exploring. Some good songs on there, just a different sound.

ghost wrote:

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:

96583UP wrote:

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

so did you escape and de-program yourself, or did you have help?

Mostly deprogrammed myself in my late teens, with a little help from

Spoiler: show

.

Did you go direct to PJ or rely on some kind of intermediary step, like an early U2 ?

U2 actually came later. The intermediary step was slightly edgier christian rock, like these absolute badasses:

They’ve come a long way from Power Praise

I'm sure I got taken to some concerts when I was a kid, but I don't really remember. I'll start with the ones I remember as a teenager.

First 3 shows (all 2002)
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Beacon Theater, NYC
Dave Matthews Band, Madison Square Garden
Leftover Crack, Knitting Factory

Last show
"Live from Here" taping, Town Hall, NYC

Favourite 3 shows (excluding PJ)
Sleater-Kinney, Crystal Ballroom, Portland, 2006 (last show before hiatus)
The National, Rivera Theater, Chicago, 2010
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Barclay Center, Brooklyn 2018

Neil Young, Fiona Apple, Sharon Jones, Patty Griffin, Elvis Costello, Springsteen, and a surprisingly great Glen Hansard show from a free outdoor gig in Chicago in 2011 are right behind those.

Favourite PJ show
I've been lucky to go to some good ones (or at least notable ones)....but MSG in 2003 and 2010 are both remarkable shows. Though the show wasn't up to that level, I did enjoy when I went to the second night of Alpine for PJ10.

Biggest regrets for shows missed
Absolutely Radiohead. Had numerous chances to see them (including in a small theater for a Hail to the Thief warm-up show), but missed them each time. I would say Tom Waits, but I don't really feel like I can regret it cause I don't see how I would have ever had the chance.

digster wrote:Biggest regrets for shows missed
Absolutely Radiohead. Had numerous chances to see them (including in a small theater for a Hail to the Thief warm-up show), but missed them each time.

my buddy and I flew to dublin to see the second olympia theatre show on the HTTT tour.

First 3 shows
Kool and the Gang - Saw them at the Ohio State Fair with my parents when I was in the first grade
Guns N Roses; Soundgarden opened - Nutter Center, Dayton, OH (1992 I believe?)
Firehouse/Tesla - Hara Arena, Dayton, OH

Last show (Hate that this was the last show I've been to. Should have been Pearl Jam on 4.3, but oh well)
Boyz ll Men, Debbie Gibson, Paula Abdul, New Kids on the Block - Bridgestone Arena, Nashville, TN (Went to this bc wife went with me to see Pearl Jam in Lexington. Things we do to keep the harmony, Lol. I did want to see Boyz ll Men though. - Funny story, the New Kids filmed a video for their song Thank you that night and my wife and I are in it.)

Favourite 3 shows (excluding PJ)
Cypress Hill - Crystal Ballroom, Portland, 2004
Black Crowes - Horseshoe Casino, Tunica, MS 2009
Bridge School Benefit 2001 - Jill Sobule, Ben Harper, Billy Idol, Tracy Chapman, Dave Matthews, REM, Pearl Jam, Neil and Crazy Horse (For me, best line up top to bottom I've personally ever seen)

Some close behind: Raconteurs @ the Ryman, Beastie Boys @ Cleveland State, 311 @ Newport Music Hall, Smashing Pumpkins @ Bogarts

Favourite PJ show
Lexington 2016 - for the experience
Memphis 2014 - for the setlist

Biggest regrets for shows missed
Wouldn't necessarily say it's a regret I missed it, but had, at the time, very hard to get tickets to see Rage Against the Machine 8.10.96 in Akron. Unfortunately my father passed away that day and obviously didn't make it to the show.

Acts I regret never seeing: Alice in Chains and Blind Melon

Chris_H_2 wrote:

digster wrote:Biggest regrets for shows missed
Absolutely Radiohead. Had numerous chances to see them (including in a small theater for a Hail to the Thief warm-up show), but missed them each time.

my buddy and I flew to dublin to see the second olympia theatre show on the HTTT tour.

Not to pile on but I saw Radiohead in a big shitty outdoor amphitheater and it is still to this day one of the best concert experiences I've ever had. This would have been the In Rainbows tour though, not sure what they're like anymore.

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

^^^We lived the same childhood, all the way to the Petra step down and that quickly followed up by Pearl Jam salvation.

Last show
My Morning Jacket - Red Rocks 8/3/19 (not great. Ask Strat)

Favourite 3 shows (excluding PJ)
My Morning Jacket - Red Rocks 5/29/16 (Seen them 10 times and this was a completely different animal)
Widespread Panic - The Wiltern 7/1/06 (The last night of a 3 night run. Amazing venue, amazing crowd, the energy went through the roof and we thought the balcony would break off from bouncing.)
Bonnaroo 2002 - It's the closest thing to the original Woodstock our generation will ever see. An amazing weekend.

Favourite PJ show
The Gorge 7/22/06 and 7/23/06 - Seen some amazing shows, but this one had it all. Capped off a 10 show year for me. Great performances, awesome Ed, stellar setlists, beautiful venue, and so many bucket list songs came our way that weekend.

Biggest regrets for shows missed
Stryper - Yellow and Black Attack tour (just kidding!)
Neil Young at Red Rocks (went back to NC to visit family) and PJ in Ottawa 2005. After 4 straight fire shows in Canada we went back to NC for a friends Wedding shower and it sounds like PJ might have peaked in Ottawa! We were having SO much fun in Canada.

First 3 shows(of big international bands):
The Rolling Stones twice, once with Dylan 1998
Metallica and Sepultura 1999
Jamiroquai 1999

Last show (international)
Ron Carter 2019

Favourite 3 shows (excluding PJ)
Neil Young and Crazy Horse 2001
Chris Cornell 2008
ACL 2009

Favorite PJ show
All of them, but Buenos Aires 2005 was amazing. ACL 09 and Alpine Valley 2011 too.

Biggest regrets for shows missed
Beastie Boys, Fugazi. I hope to see Fiona Apple.

Mickey wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

digster wrote:Biggest regrets for shows missed
Absolutely Radiohead. Had numerous chances to see them (including in a small theater for a Hail to the Thief warm-up show), but missed them each time.

my buddy and I flew to dublin to see the second olympia theatre show on the HTTT tour.

Not to pile on but I saw Radiohead in a big shitty outdoor amphitheater and it is still to this day one of the best concert experiences I've ever had. This would have been the In Rainbows tour though, not sure what they're like anymore.

Saw them back to back nights in Boston in 2018, truly amazing. Their mastery of creativity and artistry was something to behold.

surfndestroy wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

digster wrote:Biggest regrets for shows missed
Absolutely Radiohead. Had numerous chances to see them (including in a small theater for a Hail to the Thief warm-up show), but missed them each time.

my buddy and I flew to dublin to see the second olympia theatre show on the HTTT tour.

Not to pile on but I saw Radiohead in a big shitty outdoor amphitheater and it is still to this day one of the best concert experiences I've ever had. This would have been the In Rainbows tour though, not sure what they're like anymore.

Saw them back to back nights in Boston in 2018, truly amazing. Their mastery of creativity and artistry was something to behold.

I saw them twice, in 2008 which was fucking incredible and in 2018, which was good but kinda boring. I was super stoned too probably didnt helped.

Hatfield wrote:

ghost wrote:First 3 shows

^^^We lived the same childhood, all the way to the Petra step down and that quickly followed up by Pearl Jam salvation.

My brother! Did you get into Tooth and Nail or any of the other mid-late 90s alt rock stuff? I still listen to some of it from time to time, to my great shame.

Last night I went out to dinner with a friend's business associate, this guy who’s been working in the live music industry in the US for 30 years. According to him, the industry is completely fucked after COVID. And it's not just the obvious stuff like how everything from gear to renting a tour bus now costs 3 to 5 times more than it used to. He pointed out two major issues that are hitting even harder:

1. A key part of the touring machine is the crew. During the COVID lockdown, a huge chunk of that workforce either retired or changed careers. These were experienced professionals who had been doing it for years. Now there’s a massive skills deficit. You’ve got young people stepping into those roles, but with no one around to train them. So stuff breaks, mistakes happen, and all of that just snowballs into more and more costs.

2. Another less talked about issue is cultural/generational. During the lockdown, kids who were 14–16 never developed a habit or passion for seeing live music. Those are such formative years, and instead of going to shows, they stayed home playing video games with their friends. Now, those same kids, who would’ve once been fueling local scenes, aren’t going to shows, aren’t forming bands, and aren’t buying tickets. And with fewer people attending concerts, prices go up, which pushes even more people away.

I thought it was so interesting.

Jorge wrote:During the lockdown, kids who were 14–16 never developed a habit or passion for seeing live music.

Dang. Wuhan fucked a whole generation and potentially the entire live music industry.

But seriously, that is interesting.

First 3 shows
Pearl Jam - Salzburg 2000
Bruce Springsteen - Vienna 2003
Black Sabbath - Vienna 2005 (original lineup!)

Last show
Glen Hansard - Vienna 2023

Favourite 3 shows (excluding PJ)
Leonard Cohen - Vienna 2013
Neil Young - Vienna 2008
Nick Cave - Vienna 2008

Favourite PJ show
Still the first one (Salzburg 2000). A day in mid June with perfect weather, the stage was right in the center of the city next to the big dome (Residenzplatz). I know everybody has his favourite setlist, but from a performance standpoint this was so awesome and still holds up today. The 2 Vienna shows I saw (2006 and 2014) were excellent as well.

Biggest regrets for shows missed
The QOTSA tour 2003. They played a show in Vienna which got rave reviews from fans and the press. Unfortuntely I didn't go. The biggest regret might be being too young to attend the Mirrorball Tour in Salzburg in 1995.

Biggest misses:

Beastie Boys, Beck, Pavement, Sonic Youth, Foo Fighters, DJ Shadow, The Breeders
NIN, Tool, Ween, Flaming Lips, Faith No More
Grinderman
David Byrne

Plus any Chris Cornell show I missed.