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Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:15 pm
by tree_
wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:
wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?
Joe’s right. I don’t know why I ever clicked to see your posts. It’s just the same old bullshit with you.
Yep, put the blinders on when challenged. I said that I don't know either way so I guess that makes me a racist. Good day to you sir.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:18 pm
by tree_
Rob wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
Can you show us your work (so far)?
When you say you've seen no evidence of a god but you're open to seeing the evidence, why would it be your onus to provide no evidence? Or how does that make you anti-god? When you say you have evidence of a god but you're unwilling to share the evidence, it makes you look like a liar. If it's a matter of faith, fine. But you just have to say that.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:19 pm
by Norah
tree_ wrote:
Rob wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
Can you show us your work (so far)?
When you say you've seen no evidence of a god but you're open to seeing the evidence, why would it be your onus to provide no evidence? Or how does that make you anti-god? When you say you have evidence of a god but you're unwilling to share the evidence, it makes you look like a liar. If it's a matter of faith, fine. But you just have to say that.
So the answer is no, you can't.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:20 pm
by tree_
cutuphalfdead wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Rob wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
Can you show us your work (so far)?
When you say you've seen no evidence of a god but you're open to seeing the evidence, why would it be your onus to provide no evidence? Or how does that make you anti-god? When you say you have evidence of a god but you're unwilling to share the evidence, it makes you look like a liar. If it's a matter of faith, fine. But you just have to say that.
So the answer is no, you can't.
Yep. There might be a god or gods and there might be systemic racism. There also might be a talking jelly fish in my bedroom. Anything is possible. I'm open to it.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:21 pm
by Rob
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
Come on tree, you said you did the work. Just wondering about it. Show us the light.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:22 pm
by Norah
Who's to say if systemic racism exists in 21st century America? Listen to yourself and open your eyes.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:22 pm
by tree_
Rob wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
Come on tree, you said you did the work. Just wondering about it. Show us the light.
lol I said that I did the work that shows there is no real evidence. If you have it I would love to see it.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:23 pm
by tree_
cutuphalfdead wrote:Who's to say if systemic racism exists in 21st century America? Listen to yourself and open your eyes.
Show me the evidence.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:23 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:
wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.
No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?
No friend. The data is on the side of systemic racism.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ev ... i=scholart

You're the only one here without proof, posting ridiculous ideas either b/c you're confused or b/c you're amusing yourself.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:23 pm
by Norah
Like I said, he's either a piece of shit or just really, really stupid.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:25 pm
by B
cutuphalfdead wrote:Like I said, he's either a piece of shit or just really, really stupid.
OK. You've convinced me. I'll allow it.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:26 pm
by tree_
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-o ... 1591119883


There are reasonable arguments on both sides of this debate, ergo, "maybe".

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:29 pm
by Norah
lol @ thinking an opinion piece in the WSJ means anything

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:29 pm
by Norah
I quit after the first sentence. Systemic racism in policing is an Obama-era narrative.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:30 pm
by Monkey_Driven
"Mr. Obama"

:roll: :roll:

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:31 pm
by Norah
Sure some of my cells are cancerous but the vast majority aren't!

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:32 pm
by tree_
Someone just please give me one blatant example of systemic racism.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:44 pm
by tree_
As I said my mind is not made up but this guy is really convincing. 8:00 is the relevant stuff.


Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:48 pm
by swan
Someone arguing that systemic racism isn't a thing in America is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. I've been here off & on since 2003. Just wow.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:49 pm
by tree_
swan wrote:Someone arguing that systemic racism isn't a thing in America is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. I've been here off & on since 2003. Just wow.
Give me an example of systemic racism in America.