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Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:59 am
by liebzz
Bammer wrote:lowlight79 wrote:God when this album came out I was 21 and so lost. I really don’t know how I would of got through it without this record as cheesy as that sounds now.
I agree that is very cheesy
Not that cheesy when you consider half the group here leaned on Gigaton during the pandemic.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 2:31 am
by Bammer
Jeff Ament wrote: #BinauralWeek #PJNerds
"We look back and think we didn't put some of the best songs on it."
#JeffAment
Here's the original track list for Binaural. Some were dropped and later appeared on #LostDogs. You can see that God's Dice was added to the list.
ORIGINAL TRACK LIST:
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" (later renamed “Sad")
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"
I would still like to know what’s wrong with putting like 17 songs on a CD
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:37 am
by digster
I know many laud that original tracklist, and the songs are great, but in terms of a listing, and finding a way to build an album with the way you order your songs, it's a bit of a mess, IMO. I think the released version, particularly the way the last two-thirds of the record is ordered, works a fair bit better.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:12 am
by verb_to_trust
Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:14 pm
by Parrhesia
Their best album. This and Yield are the only PJ albums I listen to these days.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:34 pm
by Bammer
If I’m gonna spin a PJ album there’s roughly an equal chance between it being any of them with a slightly higher edge to Vs. and lower edge to BS and LB.
I wish it would occur to me more often to play their other stuff from Lost Dogs, movie soundtracks, bootlegs, etc. but I usually just tell Siri to “play _____ album by Pearl Jam”
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:05 pm
by Thurman Murman
verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
I will never understand that call.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:08 pm
by EJ
Thurman Murman wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
I will never understand that call.
Didn't Ed think it was too similar to Light Years or something? Bizarre. Though I still love God's Dice.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:21 pm
by dad
EJ wrote:Thurman Murman wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
I will never understand that call.
Didn't Ed think it was too similar to Light Years or something? Bizarre. Though I still love God's Dice.
yeah, but do you love all Gods' Dice?
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:41 pm
by EJ
dad wrote:EJ wrote:Thurman Murman wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
I will never understand that call.
Didn't Ed think it was too similar to Light Years or something? Bizarre. Though I still love God's Dice.
yeah, but do you love all Gods' Dice?
sure, roll them high
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:22 pm
by Leatherhead
digster wrote:I know many laud that original tracklist, and the songs are great, but in terms of a listing, and finding a way to build an album with the way you order your songs, it's a bit of a mess, IMO. I think the released version, particularly the way the last two-thirds of the record is ordered, works a fair bit better.
Agreed.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:26 pm
by liebzz
Binaural has to end with Parting Ways. Education in that spot makes no sense.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:35 pm
by dad
liebzz wrote:Binaural has to end with Parting Ways. Education in that spot makes no sense.
concur
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:49 pm
by Thurman Murman
EJ wrote:Thurman Murman wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine thinking Gods Dice was more deserving than Sad
I will never understand that call.
Didn't Ed think it was too similar to Light Years or something? Bizarre. Though I still love God's Dice.
I think the band thought that Light Years (then Puzzles & Games take) was too similar to Given to Fly so it was reworked into its eventual form.
All i remember hearing about Sad was that Ament thought it was a great little pop song that just didnt fit or something.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 8:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 8:59 pm
by Birds in Hell
Jeff Ament wrote: #BinauralWeek #PJNerds
"We look back and think we didn't put some of the best songs on it."
#JeffAment
Here's the original track list for Binaural. Some were dropped and later appeared on #LostDogs. You can see that God's Dice was added to the list.
ORIGINAL TRACK LIST:
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" (later renamed “Sad")
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"
This is the only version of the album I've listened to for years.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 1:22 pm
by dad
Still can't imagine the album ending with Education. Wouldn't feel right.
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 2:36 pm
by Thurman Murman
Does anyone have the balls to take a stab at a real cohesive, double album version of Binaural based off the tracks from the sessions that are out there?
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 2:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Happy 21st bday, Binaural
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:00 pm
by dad
tragabigzanda wrote:Thurman Murman wrote:Does anyone have the balls to take a stab at a real cohesive, double album version of Binaural based off the tracks from the sessions that are out there?
Ridleyballsout already did this and it’s spectacular