Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread

[E.H. Ruddock]

This is a dumb album. PRAMG all the way.

[stip]

this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything

Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.

fair points all around.

[ridleybradout]

this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything

Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.

This

It's always really bothered me that Ed asks if the crowd has "still got some?" after the fourth song, yet says "hello, hello, hello" to the crowd after the tenth song. Compilation Making 101 people!

Also, No No Code! Present Tense should have taken the place of Public Image.

The best thing about this release is that Brett Eliason had a chance to fix the shitty mixing of some decent 2008-2010 performances and update a few of his own 2005-06 mixes. The 2005 snare still sounds like shit though.

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

Arms Aloft is a terrible song.

[wease]

Arms Aloft is a terrible song.

Has any truer thing ever been spoken?

[epilogue]

Arms Aloft is a terrible song.

Has any truer thing ever been spoken?

Odd.

I really like it.

[epilogue]

this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything

Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.

fair points all around.

Interesting points, KD. But I have to wonder if what you're describing is actually what they were intending. I'm not sure that was the thought process behind the album.

[Kevin Davis]

It may not have been the band's deliberate intention, in fact I'd be surprised if anyone in the band had anything more than a vague awareness of this release to begin with. I just meant that the album aims for a fluidity that it has no hope of achieving, not specifically that the band was trying to fool people into thinking it was one continuous performance.

[Jorge]

I love "Arms Aloft". Not crazy about Pearl Jam's cover of it.

[digster]

Agreed. PJ's cover aside, I like the song quite a bit.

[joostone]

[LetMeSleep]

The version of NAIS is too fast.

Screw this album.

[epilogue]

It may not have been the band's deliberate intention, in fact I'd be surprised if anyone in the band had anything more than a vague awareness of this release to begin with. I just meant that the album aims for a fluidity that it has no hope of achieving, not specifically that the band was trying to fool people into thinking it was one continuous performance.

Oh, I know. I understood what you meant. And what you meant is what I'm saying I'm not so sure about. Meaning, I don't know that the album is aiming for fluidity.

[McParadigm]

A weakness is still a weakness if it was intentionally created, durd. It's just the difference between an error in judgment and plain stupidity.

[epilogue]

A weakness is still a weakness if it was intentionally created, durd. It's just the difference between an error in judgment and plain stupidity.

Sure.

[Fuzzcharger]

The version of NAIS is too fast.

Screw this album.

[B]

I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?

[Buby]

I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?

Looks like the European pressing is the one that's numbered.

[oasisfan35]

I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?

Too many.

[VinylGuy]

I have it, its a pretty cool item.