stip wrote:this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything
Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.
fair points all around.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 12:41 am
by ridleybradout
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything
Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.
This
It's always really bothered me that Ed asks if the crowd has "still got some?" after the fourth song, yet says "hello, hello, hello" to the crowd after the tenth song. Compilation Making 101 people!
Also, No No Code! Present Tense should have taken the place of Public Image.
The best thing about this release is that Brett Eliason had a chance to fix the shitty mixing of some decent 2008-2010 performances and update a few of his own 2005-06 mixes. The 2005 snare still sounds like shit though.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:07 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Arms Aloft is a terrible song.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:25 am
by wease
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Arms Aloft is a terrible song.
Has any truer thing ever been spoken?
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:37 am
by epilogue
wease wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Arms Aloft is a terrible song.
Has any truer thing ever been spoken?
Odd.
I really like it.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:38 am
by epilogue
stip wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:this suffers from the feeling of redundancy more than anything
Redundancy, yes, but also randomness -- and worse, randomness that the album's programming asks us to accept as uniformity. Unlike "PJ20," which is elevated by its sort of iPod-shuffle, storytelling-via-scrapbooking aesthetic, this album asks that we suspend our disbelief enough to accept that sixteen performances of wildly variable sonic and performance quality across a six-year timeframe comprise a single concert experience which only vaguely resembles the actual flow of one of their shows. With as much live music as is available from PJ, it's probably impossible for any collection of this nature not to feel a bit random, but it should not be difficult to (1) find 16 excellent performances and (2) sequence them sensibly. RM's amateur archivists have proven time and again that these are completely achievable, if not easy, tasks. This album fails on both counts.
fair points all around.
Interesting points, KD. But I have to wonder if what you're describing is actually what they were intending. I'm not sure that was the thought process behind the album.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 4:32 am
by Kevin Davis
It may not have been the band's deliberate intention, in fact I'd be surprised if anyone in the band had anything more than a vague awareness of this release to begin with. I just meant that the album aims for a fluidity that it has no hope of achieving, not specifically that the band was trying to fool people into thinking it was one continuous performance.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 4:50 am
by Jorge
I love "Arms Aloft". Not crazy about Pearl Jam's cover of it.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 5:00 am
by digster
Agreed. PJ's cover aside, I like the song quite a bit.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 8:08 am
by joostone
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 10:14 am
by LetMeSleep
The version of NAIS is too fast.
Screw this album.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 1:45 pm
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:It may not have been the band's deliberate intention, in fact I'd be surprised if anyone in the band had anything more than a vague awareness of this release to begin with. I just meant that the album aims for a fluidity that it has no hope of achieving, not specifically that the band was trying to fool people into thinking it was one continuous performance.
Oh, I know. I understood what you meant. And what you meant is what I'm saying I'm not so sure about. Meaning, I don't know that the album is aiming for fluidity.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 1:55 pm
by McParadigm
A weakness is still a weakness if it was intentionally created, durd. It's just the difference between an error in judgment and plain stupidity.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 1:58 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:A weakness is still a weakness if it was intentionally created, durd. It's just the difference between an error in judgment and plain stupidity.
Sure.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat October 08, 2016 7:15 am
by Fuzzcharger
LetMeSleep wrote:The version of NAIS is too fast.
Screw this album.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu February 27, 2025 11:08 pm
by B
I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu February 27, 2025 11:35 pm
by Buby
B wrote:I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?
Looks like the European pressing is the one that's numbered.
Re: Live on Ten Legs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri February 28, 2025 12:34 am
by oasisfan35
B wrote:I either forgot or never knew these were numbered. Anyone know how many were made?
