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Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 5:11 pm
by Chris_H_2
if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 5:21 pm
by Anders
What about Nothingman?

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 5:24 pm
by tragabigzanda
Anders wrote:What about Nothingman?
Ed climbs the scaffolding of my soul

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:15 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Anders wrote:What about Nothingman?
Ed climbs the scaffolding of my soul
Im actually a tad surprised you love nothingman so much.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Anders wrote:What about Nothingman?
Ed climbs the scaffolding of my soul
Im actually a tad surprised you love nothingman so much.
It's not all minimalism and Albini over here, bub

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:36 pm
by stip
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:40 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'
I just generally wish people didn't diminish other peoples love for a thing. "If it werent for this you wouldnt love that!!" Well, so fucking what? That's part of the thing and why I love it. its so dumb.

You wouldnt like that song if it werent pearl jam! Well, no fucking shit.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'
I just generally wish people didn't diminish other peoples love for a thing. "If it werent for this you wouldnt love that!!" Well, so fucking what? That's part of the thing and why I love it. its so dumb.

You wouldnt like that song if it werent pearl jam! Well, no fucking shit.
dude i wasn't attacking you

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 6:44 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'
I just generally wish people didn't diminish other peoples love for a thing. "If it werent for this you wouldnt love that!!" Well, so fucking what? That's part of the thing and why I love it. its so dumb.

You wouldnt like that song if it werent pearl jam! Well, no fucking shit.
dude i wasn't attacking you
I didn't say you were! Just random thoughts by strat here

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 7:03 pm
by stip
All or None being ahead of Black is tearing us apart!

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 7:04 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:All or None being ahead of Black is tearing us apart!
All or none is great and the only reason you like black is because of a mind blowing unplugged performance.
Spoiler: show
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Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 7:43 pm
by Chris_H_2
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'
I just generally wish people didn't diminish other peoples love for a thing. "If it werent for this you wouldnt love that!!" Well, so fucking what? That's part of the thing and why I love it. its so dumb.

You wouldnt like that song if it werent pearl jam! Well, no fucking shit.
i'm sorry i hurt your feelings strat

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 7:51 pm
by Strat
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:if the band didn't use porch as an extended jam with its lead singer making a name for himself climbing all over the place 30 years ago the song wouldn't get nearly as much love today.
Porch is an A-/B+ song with a furious conclusion that just rockets it into the stratosphere for me - with a few live performances that add to the perception of the studio take. But it's never been about the live take for me.


Although I think we could go to any of these songs and say 'if it wasn't for cool thing X or Y about it we'd like it less'
I just generally wish people didn't diminish other peoples love for a thing. "If it werent for this you wouldnt love that!!" Well, so fucking what? That's part of the thing and why I love it. its so dumb.

You wouldnt like that song if it werent pearl jam! Well, no fucking shit.
i'm sorry i hurt your feelings strat
Who said my feelings were hurt?Im just saying some arguments against porch are dumb.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 8:15 pm
by JuanHamm
Strat wrote:Nothing man is still beautiful live and if you disagree then you should die
:thumbsup:

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 8:16 pm
by liebzz
This board will splinter into porchicrats and allornonicans- there is no room for compromise.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 8:18 pm
by Norah
and the rivers will run red with the blood of my enemies

show the porchicrats no quarter, comrades

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 9:42 pm
by Birds in Hell
This one is Porch for me.

I've never been crazy about Nothingman.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 9:52 pm
by digster
For quite a while, Porch, while good, has always been on the lower end in terms of Ten songs for me. It's not really a song I've ever fixated on or have been enthralled with. Nothingman is a favorite of mine, but in particular, the studio recording of that song is one of my favorite things the band has done.

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 10:31 pm
by LetMeSleep
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Ban trag
banningtragman

Re: 113. Porch vs. Nothingman

Posted: Thu March 03, 2022 10:52 pm
by Leatherhead
Neither of these are top tier for me.