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Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 2:47 pm
by Noonie
harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 2:51 pm
by harmless
Noonie wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
It depends what you mean by 'swallowed'. It could mean that he received the truth, i.e. he educated himself, so that he didn't lie anymore.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:01 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
It depends what you mean by 'swallowed'. It could mean that he received the truth, i.e. he educated himself, so that he didn't lie anymore.
Or the truth isn't often as sound as it it supposed to be. What you think is the truth is a lie. What others hear as a lie could be the truth.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:06 pm
by EJ
Thejambi wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
It depends what you mean by 'swallowed'. It could mean that he received the truth, i.e. he educated himself, so that he didn't lie anymore.
Or the truth isn't often as sound as it it supposed to be. What you think is the truth is a lie. What others hear as a lie could be the truth.
I like this reasoning.

Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:07 pm
by Noonie
harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
It depends what you mean by 'swallowed'. It could mean that he received the truth, i.e. he educated himself, so that he didn't lie anymore.
Even if that's what he means, it still significantly downgrades the lyric for me

It's like how it always kinda bugged me that he always changes it to "
we'll end up alone like
we began", which is nice and inclusive and all, but just no where near as powerful as "I'll end up alone like I began".
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:11 pm
by Thejambi
EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
If he swallowed THE TRUTH then he WOULD be lying tho, no?
It depends what you mean by 'swallowed'. It could mean that he received the truth, i.e. he educated himself, so that he didn't lie anymore.
Or the truth isn't often as sound as it it supposed to be. What you think is the truth is a lie. What others hear as a lie could be the truth.
I like this reasoning.

Fucking yeah yeah yeah!
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:12 pm
by EJ
Thejambi wrote: yeah yeah yeah!
you've now ruined the moment

Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:13 pm
by harmless
EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote: yeah yeah yeah!
you've now ruined the moment

That's what she said.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:14 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote: yeah yeah yeah!
you've now ruined the moment

That's what she said.
Truth.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:14 pm
by EJ
Thejambi wrote:harmless wrote:EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote: yeah yeah yeah!
you've now ruined the moment

That's what she said.
Truth.
you're back

Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:15 pm
by harmless
EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote:harmless wrote:EJ wrote:Thejambi wrote: yeah yeah yeah!
you've now ruined the moment

That's what she said.
Truth.
you're back


Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:24 pm
by VinylGuy
they also changed the stone part in RVM right?
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:32 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:34 pm
by harmless
cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
Chud, come back from this land of bad feeling you're in. I know what it's like, really, but it's killing you.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:35 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
Chud, come back from this land of bad feeling you're in. I know what it's like, really, but it's killing you.
I'm fine, dude.
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:35 pm
by harmless
cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
Chud, come back from this land of bad feeling you're in. I know what it's like, really, but it's killing you.
I'm fine, dude.

Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:41 pm
by Noonie
cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?
Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:43 pm
by Norah
Noonie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?
IT'S SECRETARIAT EVERYBODY!

Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:47 pm
by Noonie
cutuphalfdead wrote:Noonie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?
IT'S SECRETARIAT EVERYBODY!


Re: Lyrics that Eddie Vedder has changed through the years?
Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 6:48 pm
by Norah
Noonie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Noonie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:Noonie wrote:"I swallowed my words to keep from lying" (which is a pretty powerful line. he's saying he had to completely shut up because anything he'd say would be a lie) turned to "I swallowed the truth to keep from lying" (which just... doesn't mean shit, Ed)
Um, yeah it does.
Don't you talk to Maayan like that.
WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?
IT'S SECRETARIAT EVERYBODY!


