Red Mosquito

spike wrote:you dickheads don't realize how good you have it when it comes to scrounging for pearl jam audio.

I remember hearing about a dude, through a friend of a friend, in high school who was obsessed with Pearl Jam.

He came and met me after one of my classes with a bag full of cassettes....

Pearl Jam bootlegs.

Awesome

Ah, a good thread

i've been wondering after a few listenings to the vs rough mixes is it whipping the same thing that appeared on vitalogy?

to me it sounds pretty close to an album version from vitalogy, what gives?

they're should've include whipping/betterman(live) /hti to the vs reissue album

ps. i'd like to look to the better quality rough mixes other than that shitty mp3 from g.net

is puzzles and games still considered the light years demo

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:is puzzles and games still considered the light years demo

I'd say so. And there's the Ten Redux stuff (Just A Girl, Breath and a Scream, SOLAT, Goat, 2,000mile Blues).

Plus there's Chinese, Acoustic no1, Need To Know, Nothing As It Seems. Anything In Between??

Shall we start a list for the OP?

I'm familiar with anything that's been officially released, I just periodically see reference to "Vs. Demos" or "S/T Demos" (the guy in the Lightning Bolt thread who made his countdown-to-the-new-album calendar is what got me thinking of this) and find myself wondering what that refers to. From what I gather these people are usually just referring to lower-grade versions of the released takes?

Kevin Davis wrote:I'm familiar with anything that's been officially released, I just periodically see reference to "Vs. Demos" or "S/T Demos" (the guy in the Lightning Bolt thread who made his countdown-to-the-new-album calendar is what got me thinking of this) and find myself wondering what that refers to. From what I gather these people are usually just referring to lower-grade versions of the released takes?

More so the rough mixes or slightly different performances that preceded the album version.

Most of Riot Act:

Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"

taffer wrote:Ah, a good thread

i've been wondering after a few listenings to the vs rough mixes is it whipping the same thing that appeared on vitalogy?

to me it sounds pretty close to an album version from vitalogy, what gives?

they're should've include whipping/betterman(live) /hti to the vs reissue album

ps. i'd like to look to the better quality rough mixes other than that shitty mp3 from g.net

The recording notes say that it was re-recorded but it is possible they used that as a guide track. Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.

Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.

Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.

There's a couple of others.

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:

Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"

i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.

Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.

There's a couple of others.

Which ones?

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:

Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"

i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.

No wonder stone doesn't like Riot Act

stupidmop wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.

Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.

There's a couple of others.

Which ones?

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:

Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"

i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.

No wonder stone doesn't like Riot Act

plus the fact that he wrote some awesome music for a song that Ed refused to sing on and it became Bushleaguer
though i love Bushleaguer

Yeah i like bushleaguer too, but that music was way to awesome to be wasted on a doomed to be dated spoken word tirade. They should rework the verses and keep the chorus for obama-leaguer.I'd love to hear a version with singing on if there was one.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, he has MSG 98 at a shitty bitrate with no source info. I hadn't been here in a while but this is why. That shit pisses me off.

Yea im hoping that show gets the Vault treatment one day...The audio I have sucks too...I believe its from gremmie

Supposedly a sung version of Bushleaguer exists. Still waiting on Kurtleon to unearth it...

10c probably have a picture of kurtleon up on the wall so they can all recognise him and take him down when he pops up at a concert.

stupidmop wrote:Yeah i like bushleaguer too, but that music was way to awesome to be wasted on a doomed to be dated spoken word tirade. They should rework the verses and keep the chorus for obama-leaguer.I'd love to hear a version with singing on if there was one.

i would definitely like to see it reworked for the next person they are that upset with

I'd like to hear an instrumental version actually.

Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:

Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"

huh, see that's interesting. i've always considered a demo to be a very rough sketch of a song that's recorded independently by a member of the band, then brought to the band. once the band records it in some form, it ceases to be a demo and is then a rough mix. but i suppose it's still a demo if the band is working it out in studio and it just happens to be recorded? or, stone is just using the term 'demo' haphazardly, which is, really, what a lot of folks around here do and it get's chud's panties in a bunch.