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Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 5:18 pm
by oftheearth
Is it just me or is this the same melody as Rocket Man by Elton John in the chorus?

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:24 pm
by spike
Vindicator wrote:
spike wrote:what a monster. outro is kinda stupid though.
I'm a bit torn on the outro. It feels like a tacked on jam. I love the rest of the track, but the outro doesn't feel earned. It goes too abruptly into an uplifting jam that it feels jarring. Could get used to it though
Agree

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 11:39 pm
by WaitingForBluey
I will take that outro any day of the week and twice on Tuesday

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 2:13 am
by Vindicator
Throwing out this thought, but Upper Hand could have worked well as the closer

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 2:38 am
by RockPusher
Mike just kills it with fire on this song

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 5:12 am
by Vindicator
Upper Hand would also make a great show opener

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 6:43 am
by DeeDee
The outro took me by surprise, too.

I'll get used to it, I guess.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 7:11 am
by Ms Harmless
DeeDee wrote:The outro took me by surprise, too.

I'll get used to it, I guess.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:05 am
by Release_Me
This song starts with one of my favourite lines by Ed: "The distance to the end is closer now than it's ever been".

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:52 am
by Ms Harmless
Release_Me wrote:This song starts with one of my favourite lines by Ed: "The distance to the end is closer now than it's ever been".
yeah that's beautiful

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 11:43 am
by injuddstree
oftheearth wrote:Is it just me or is this the same melody as Rocket Man by Elton John in the chorus?
Not just you.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 3:08 pm
by oftheearth
injuddstree wrote:
oftheearth wrote:Is it just me or is this the same melody as Rocket Man by Elton John in the chorus?
Not just you.
It's one of my favorite parts in the song, Eddie sounds great along with Mike. I don't recall if it's this song or Won't Tell but I also hear a little Strokes 'Trying Your Luck' guitar riff that I adore. :luv:

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 9:26 pm
by OmegaprimeVKM
Overall, probably the best constructed track on the album. I'd be unsurprised if this is an Ament number.

It has the patience to develop and lacks the rushed nature of an Ed song. I enjoyed it.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 9:53 pm
by Ms Harmless
at first I wasn't sure about that jammy outro; it seemed a bit much for the chilled bluesy nature of the song, and at odds with the synthy intro; but then I realised that the song itself is essentially an ode to 70's prog, and those three disparate parts are nods to three different elements of that sound: synthy ambience, slow Cready blues, Elton John-style piano jam

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 11:35 pm
by injuddstree
Hearing Cold Confession-esque inflections from Ed here. That's a good thing.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 11:40 pm
by stip
this song seems like it contains the most song on the record

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 1:28 am
by mikejasond
Another very cool song. Though the intro was like 20-30% too long imo. A bit disjointed but I like the pieces a lot. Though it was another Eddie chorus that surprised me lyrically. I’m confused where his head is at on this album. It’s not the Eddie I expected from gigaton.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 1:39 am
by B
Favorite song. Hands down. Best thing on the album.

The atmospheric opening is so good.

Is that Stone on the guitar solo? I loved that too.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 10:56 am
by Tj
Spiraling guitar outro with Ed's climb vocal is a lift off to the heavens. Best Ed has sounded in a long time. His vocal inflection here is stunning.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 11:24 am
by injuddstree
Outtro reminds me of Marker In The Sand outtro, which is one of the better moments on Avocado.