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Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Mon March 04, 2024 10:42 pm
by liebzz
Kevin Davis wrote:“Porch” has a middle section that can become anything. I know there is a whole mindset that thinks its inappropriate to vote based on live versions, but insofar as all of that potential is bottled up in there somewhere even on the album cut, this one is an easy one for me (though some of the “Blood” tags are good too).
I agree with this 100%.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Mon March 04, 2024 10:47 pm
by epilogue
I don't think any reason for voting is "inappropriate" however I will never take a live version into account when I vote, personally. Because what I'm voting on isn't potential.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:13 am
by Kevin Davis
I mean, “potential” probably isn’t the best term; all the awesome live versions I’m thinking of actually happened, and are actual ways that the song managed to manifest itself and be transformed beyond the studio version. To me, all that stuff is part of a song’s story and part of what plays into the lasting impression I have of it. So I’m not really voting on the basis of specific live versions, so much as I am allowing all the different iterations of the song that I’ve heard to influence a more generalized, open-ended sense of what it has the power to be. Sometimes a song’s studio version doesn’t go that distance or capture that fullness.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 3:18 pm
by liebzz
Kevin Davis wrote:I mean, “potential” probably isn’t the best term; all the awesome live versions I’m thinking of actually happened, and are actual ways that the song managed to manifest itself and be transformed beyond the studio version. To me, all that stuff is part of a song’s story and part of what plays into the lasting impression I have of it. So I’m not really voting on the basis of specific live versions, so much as I am allowing all the different iterations of the song that I’ve heard to influence a more generalized, open-ended sense of what it has the power to be. Sometimes a song’s studio version doesn’t go that distance or capture that fullness.
Well said. I think this is often what impacts much of my music taste, even beyond Porch - and Porch itself may have been the launching point influencing how I listen to music in a larger sense.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:58 pm
by mray10
epilogue wrote:I don't think any reason for voting is "inappropriate" however I will never take a live version into account when I vote, personally. Because what I'm voting on isn't potential.
Sometimes the live version just help unlock what's there in the studio recording

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 5:07 pm
by wease
Sometimes the coolest live versions have Dave A while the studio version has Dave K.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 9:01 pm
by epilogue
mray10 wrote:
epilogue wrote:I don't think any reason for voting is "inappropriate" however I will never take a live version into account when I vote, personally. Because what I'm voting on isn't potential.
Sometimes the live version just help unlock what's there in the studio recording
I think that's true for a lot of listeners and posters in this annual MM tournament.

I can't say that's ever been the case for me personally.

But that's why it's not inappropriate to vote however you want, for whatever reason you want. We're all coming at this from different places. And I like that.

Re: MM 1-4: Why Go vs. Porch vs. Blood

Posted: Wed March 06, 2024 12:08 am
by stip
Porch wins!