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Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:47 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:private equity is generally oriented towards extractive capitalism, so the existential danger I see is more AI-assisted production. For example, one day we'll probably get a bunch of make believe Nirvana tunes that sound real.
They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:48 pm
by tree_
I think my favourite music wouldn't be good in a car and cheeseburgerz commercial, and that quality in of itself makes it my favoruite music

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:49 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:50 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
yes, but with PE at the helm they'll eventually start to aggressively market and distribute. I don't care if it's some guy's experiment on YouTube; I'll even check it out. But I rue the day we see a 2LP 180g pressing of the followup to In Utero.
doesn't sound like a problem to me. the soul isn't there, it is a different thing, a fun novelty

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:51 pm
by BurtReynolds
That one Black Rebel Motorcycle Club song is ruined for me.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:52 pm
by BurtReynolds
tree_ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
yes, but with PE at the helm they'll eventually start to aggressively market and distribute. I don't care if it's some guy's experiment on YouTube; I'll even check it out. But I rue the day we see a 2LP 180g pressing of the followup to In Utero.
doesn't sound like a problem to me. the soul isn't there, it is a different thing, a fun novelty
I'd prefer they make fake versions.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:53 pm
by tommy
BurtReynolds wrote:That one Black Rebel Motorcycle Club song is ruined for me.
Which one?

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 4:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
I think Spread The Love has been used in several commercials, but I can't remember which ones.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 6:07 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:private equity is generally oriented towards extractive capitalism, so the existential danger I see is more AI-assisted production. For example, one day we'll probably get a bunch of make believe Nirvana tunes that sound real.

I'm with you. The buying/buyer bothers me a bit more than the seller, though I couldn't confidently tell you a music label wouldn't do the same thing.

Given the way streaming and the decline of physical media has changed how musicians make money, I feel like we would need to identify other viable ways to make a living off your music. It was easier to be precious about this in an era of million plus album sales being easy to come by

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 6:09 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 6:12 pm
by BurtReynolds
I'm any case, the cost of licensing music is probably about to crater.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 1:25 am
by Kalevi
I don't like it

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 2:55 am
by daft twat
Remember the Busch beer commercial with “Simple Man”? There was a stallion rearing up and over it, “And be a simple…..Busch……kind of man.” That’s the only way I hear it now. And it’s better.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 9:48 pm
by oasisfan35
Kevin Davis wrote:The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 2:30 am
by Kevin Davis
oasisfan35 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.
I was only 10 or so; classic rock was still a few years away for me.

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 2:37 am
by Jorge
The first version I heard of that song was Elvis Costello and Lucinda Williams

The Stones version remains my least favorite :o

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 2:40 am
by doug rr
Kevin Davis wrote:
oasisfan35 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.
I was only 10 or so; classic rock was still a few years away for me.
in an interview many years ago, Bob Dylan was asked if there was a song that he wished he had written and he said wild horses...

Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?

Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:51 am
by Kevin Davis
Jorge wrote:The first version I heard of that song was Elvis Costello and Lucinda Williams

The Stones version remains my least favorite :o
Man, I'd never heard this -- it's excellent!

Love me some WIWC-era buzzcut/widow's peak EC