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Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:00 pm
by dimejinky99
Silver lining if any hopefully this sees the current or next administration start to fix Americas infrastructure. Watched a thing about the rail network a while back and it’s falling apart and a miracle stuff like this doesn’t happen all the time with trains.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:06 pm
by Anders
At least one dead.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:21 pm
by BurtReynolds
Lucky it didn't happen during rush hour.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:26 pm
by dimejinky99
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:31 pm
by McParadigm
No sir that’s a bridge
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 2:49 pm
by dimejinky99
I need to watch it. It’s been too long.
Today I learned Baltimore is the largest and busiest port in all the United States and this is a monumental fuck up that’s going to have domino effect consequences.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 3:03 pm
by washing machine
dimejinky99 wrote:I need to watch it. It’s been too long.
Today I learned Baltimore is the largest and busiest port in all the United States and this is a monumental fuck up that’s going to have domino effect consequences.
Los Angeles and Houston would contest that claim, but I see your point.
This incident is as terrifying as it was inevitable with busy ports and aging infrastructures. I'll cross myself before driving over the Sidney Sherman bridge on the way home this afternoon.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 3:04 pm
by Bammer
dimejinky99 wrote:Silver lining if any hopefully this sees the current or next administration start to fix Americas infrastructure. Watched a thing about the rail network a while back and it’s falling apart and a miracle stuff like this doesn’t happen all the time with trains.
Ok yes to addressing infrastructure … but this incident, I’d argue, is not related at all. A huge ship crashed into a bridge.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 3:43 pm
by dimejinky99
Bammer wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Silver lining if any hopefully this sees the current or next administration start to fix Americas infrastructure. Watched a thing about the rail network a while back and it’s falling apart and a miracle stuff like this doesn’t happen all the time with trains.
Ok yes to addressing infrastructure … but this incident, I’d argue, is not related at all. A huge ship crashed into a bridge.
And the design of that bridge wouldn’t see it built today as it wouldn’t be able to deal with such a collision. Mordern bridges would easily.
Ship couldn’t have been going at any speed at all. Just the sheer weight of it took it out.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 3:45 pm
by BurtReynolds
We have to bomb Sri Lanka.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 3:56 pm
by Anders
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:06 pm
by washing machine
What % of those containers were damaged and how is the port able to unload the intact stuff so that the economy can keep moving? Seems like a crass question on the surface, but livelihoods are also affected in this disruption. As a supply chain nerd, I'd be interested to know.
Also, I shudder thinking about the delivery schedule nightmares that are about to come for restaurants and product vendors who rely on delivery drivers using that bridge.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:12 pm
by dimejinky99
washing machine wrote:What % of those containers were damaged and how is the port able to unload the intact stuff so that the economy can keep moving? Seems like a crass question on the surface, but livelihoods are also affected in this disruption. As a supply chain nerd, I'd be interested to know.
Also, I shudder thinking about the delivery schedule nightmares that are about to come for restaurants and product vendors who rely on delivery drivers using that bridge.
Thousands and thousands of shipping containers fall off vessels around the world every year. They Bob around in the water and are lethal for any kind of vessel big or small that encounter them.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:18 pm
by simple schoolboy
BurtReynolds wrote:We have to bomb Sri Lanka.
This is how they get revenge for our NGOs convincing them to stop using fertilizer.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:19 pm
by washing machine
dimejinky99 wrote:washing machine wrote:What % of those containers were damaged and how is the port able to unload the intact stuff so that the economy can keep moving? Seems like a crass question on the surface, but livelihoods are also affected in this disruption. As a supply chain nerd, I'd be interested to know.
Also, I shudder thinking about the delivery schedule nightmares that are about to come for restaurants and product vendors who rely on delivery drivers using that bridge.
Thousands and thousands of shipping containers fall off vessels around the world every year. They Bob around in the water and are lethal for any kind of vessel big or small that encounter them.
Okay, but what about this incident and the containers viewable on the videos?
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:36 pm
by simple schoolboy
On liability:
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:50 pm
by B
dimejinky99 wrote:Bammer wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Silver lining if any hopefully this sees the current or next administration start to fix Americas infrastructure. Watched a thing about the rail network a while back and it’s falling apart and a miracle stuff like this doesn’t happen all the time with trains.
Ok yes to addressing infrastructure … but this incident, I’d argue, is not related at all. A huge ship crashed into a bridge.
And the design of that bridge wouldn’t see it built today as it wouldn’t be able to deal with such a collision. Mordern bridges would easily.
Ship couldn’t have been going at any speed at all. Just the sheer weight of it took it out.
I don't know. Sounds made up to me. I am [gags a bit] with Bammer.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:57 pm
by dimejinky99
simple schoolboy wrote:On liability:
If we’re going by ‘ancient maritime laws’ that means any cargo in the water is salvage and you or I can go get it and claim it.
‘Ancient maritime laws’ only apply to open sea though and don’t even apply there. This is a river. Not the open sea.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
"The Key Bridge, which opened in March 1977 after five years of construction and cost an estimated $110 million..."
Imagine how much it will cost to rebuild.
Re: Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Posted: Tue March 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by dimejinky99
B wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Bammer wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Silver lining if any hopefully this sees the current or next administration start to fix Americas infrastructure. Watched a thing about the rail network a while back and it’s falling apart and a miracle stuff like this doesn’t happen all the time with trains.
Ok yes to addressing infrastructure … but this incident, I’d argue, is not related at all. A huge ship crashed into a bridge.
And the design of that bridge wouldn’t see it built today as it wouldn’t be able to deal with such a collision. Mordern bridges would easily.
Ship couldn’t have been going at any speed at all. Just the sheer weight of it took it out.
I don't know. Sounds made up to me. I am [gags a bit] with Bammer.
You can’t have a metal frame bridge which is basically a giant mecanno set over the busiest port in America when it has 200,000 ton ships coming in and out every few hours.
Who knew?