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Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Thu July 18, 2024 2:42 am
by VinylGuy
started this one
so far its very solid
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Sun July 21, 2024 4:23 pm
by VinylGuy
Im halfway there and its fun yeah, lots of red herrings which is normal for this type of series.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Mon July 22, 2024 3:41 am
by VinylGuy
Alright now I’m just waiting for the finale tomorrow
- Spoiler: show
- I really don’t have a clue who killed her…maybe that girl who worked with than and seemed to hate her and being kinda obsessed with rusty ?
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Tue July 23, 2024 4:37 am
by Ensign9
VinylGuy wrote:Alright now I’m just waiting for the finale tomorrow
- Spoiler: show
- I really don’t have a clue who killed her…maybe that girl who worked with than and seemed to hate her and being kinda obsessed with rusty ?
That’s my current bet.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Tue July 23, 2024 7:42 pm
by Simple Torture
I’m pretty sure the episode goes up late tonight—I think I may stay up for it.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Tue July 23, 2024 7:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 1:22 am
by Simple Torture
Lfgggggggggggggggggggg
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 2:19 am
by Simple Torture
10/10, no notes!
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 2:26 am
by Strat
Absolutely awesome.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 2:38 am
by Simple Torture
Simple Torture wrote:I am 100% sure that I never saw the original movie, but I think I may have had the ending spoiled. I vaguely remember a podcast (something like The Rewatchables) talking about Harrison Ford movies and they may have discussed the ending of this. We shall see.
So, about this (spoilers for the show and the movie):
- Spoiler: show
- I must have misheard someone’s take on this movie or they may have been talking about a different movie, but what I thought I had heard was that he gets acquitted and then in the final scene we find out that movie Rusty (Harrison Ford) was the killer, he just fooled everyone and got off. I read the movie’s Wikipedia page and that’s not the case—Barbara did it in the movie.
However, right up until the moment their daughter walked in, I was 1000% convinced that Rusty was the killer. That moment it flashes to Carolyn’s face right before the verdict is read, I felt like that was more or less his confession, and I figured that story he told about Barbara’s disassociation and tracking her car was just a cover, that he was going to reveal to her that it WAS him, but that he had planted enough seeds that it seemed like it could have been Barbara (like maybe he tracked her car while HE was driving to Tommy’s house), so that he could blackmail her into keeping the family together. I was pleasantly surprised when that was not the case—Jae was basically the only character throughout the whole series who did not have suspicion thrown her way, and I hadn’t heard a single person theorize that it was her—hell, I even heard someone say they thought it was the therapist!
I’m interested to see if any characters return for Season 2. I’ll be watching.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 3:06 am
by VinylGuy
- Spoiler: show
- yeah, that was a great scene. I also was totally buying it because Rusty cleaned the house and made the ties, so it makes sense nobody could track her.
I dont see these guys coming back for S2 and the ending is powerful as it is, even with Tommy Molto being kinda redeemed as a normal guy. I like that.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 3:27 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 12:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 12:03 pm
by Simple Torture
I’m curious about how they’re going to approach next season. Would it be fun to actually root for Tommy if they did a season from his POV trying to put someone who’s definitely guilty away? There was that line at the end about moving on because of all the other criminals out there. Does Rusty enter private practice and we follow him? Or is it a completely new location and case?
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 12:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 1:47 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah me too but i dont know....im guessing new case and new characters.
I also loved how they painted Caroline..she wasnt the classic victim, she seemed very complicated and even problematic, with her lying about having a son and not wanting him in her life
- Spoiler: show
- she even kinda provoked the daughter in that scene. She told her about the baby and get up and left, very sassy
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 3:27 pm
by Simple Torture
In the midst of the discussions about the series’ ending, let’s not gloss over how both of the closing statements were bangers.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 3:32 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah Tommy Molto did a good job overall.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 4:54 pm
by Strat
Simple Torture wrote:In the midst of the discussions about the series’ ending, let’s not gloss over how both of the closing statements were bangers.
they could teach a class on writing and acting with all that. fucking awesome.
Re: Presumed Innocent (1987 book, 1990 film, 2024 show)
Posted: Wed July 24, 2024 5:18 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, Jake was great and he really knows how to be both charming and violent or creepy. And Peter Sarsgaard is such an enormous actor. Tommy Molto could have been just a creepy bastard and he gaves the character so many more layers. The final shot with him watching football with his cat was so good.