Red Mosquito

stip wrote:gigaton was easily the least successful of that run of 5 albums (comercially). i mean timing of release is a factor

Commercial success is literally the last thing on my mind. Like, ever.

That has nothing to do with the post I made.

Since you prefaced your comment with ‘while interesting to diehards’ I thought you were talking about general reception

stip wrote:Since you prefaced your comment with ‘while interesting to diehards’ I thought you were talking about general reception

Oh. Weird. Feels like you read my post, but this comment makes me feel like you didn't at all read my post.

Whatever.

i mean i thought i did? i see what you meant now

None of it matters. I'm sure I'm wrong, whatever my point is.

not the point you were actually making. perhaps thr one i thought you were making.

to heal this rift between us might I suggest a shared listen of Off He Goes. Or My Father’s Son which, when you strip away all the artifice and noise, is really the flip side of the same coin.

We always have different points. You want my point to be your point. And that's where we continue to find conflict.

My point is my point, not your point. But whatever. I'm sure my point is wrong anyway. You're right. My point is irrelevant.

Wow! Reading that back, I sound angry or defensive or whatever and that was not my intent. Forgive me. And know that I wasn't trying to be so shitty.

epilogue wrote:We always have different points. You want my point to be your point. And that's where we continue to find conflict.

My point is my point, not your point. But whatever. I'm sure my point is wrong anyway. You're right. My point is irrelevant.

i think we agree?

Yes, generally those run of records dont inspire nearly the same interest amongst the fan base as the records preceeding. outside RM gigaton probably gets included, sadly. But not for you.

though in terms of larger initial public impact outside the online fanbase those records were more successful than gigaton.

agreed?

i haven’t seen RM so divided since the claim Im about to make.

Pendulum is an evolved, and vastly superior, sequel to Dead Man

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:We always have different points. You want my point to be your point. And that's where we continue to find conflict.

My point is my point, not your point. But whatever. I'm sure my point is wrong anyway. You're right. My point is irrelevant.

i think we agree?

Yes, generally those run of records dont inspire nearly the same interest amongst the fan base as the records preceeding. outside RM gigaton probably gets included, sadly. But not for you.

though in terms of larger initial public impact outside the online fanbase those records were more successful than gigaton.

agreed?

Oh, I have no idea. And I don't really care, if that makes sense. My posts never have anything to do with public perception or whatever. I'm just talking about my own personal experience. I can't speak to other's experience..

I leave that to others to decide

stip wrote:i haven’t seen RM so divided since the claim Im about to make.

Pendulum is an evolved, and vastly superior, sequel to Dead Man

I don't know what you mean by "sequel" but I do personally think it's a better song than Dead Man, which is a song I happen to adore.

epilogue wrote:

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:We always have different points. You want my point to be your point. And that's where we continue to find conflict.

My point is my point, not your point. But whatever. I'm sure my point is wrong anyway. You're right. My point is irrelevant.

i think we agree?

Yes, generally those run of records dont inspire nearly the same interest amongst the fan base as the records preceeding. outside RM gigaton probably gets included, sadly. But not for you.

though in terms of larger initial public impact outside the online fanbase those records were more successful than gigaton.

agreed?

Oh, I have no idea. And I don't really care, if that makes sense. My posts never have anything to do with public perception or whatever. I'm just talking about my own personal experience. I can't speak to other's experience..

I leave that to others to decide

I feel like it'd be very slippery to gauge the public impact of any PJ album after the 90s. They've had one or two songs break through in terms of a radio single, but it feels hard to say any of their albums during that time have resonated outside their die-hard fanbase (which is totally normal I think for a band of their longevity that isn't trying to be U2).

Gigaton seems particularly impossible to understand how it landed for people; it came out in late March 2020 - literally everything from that month outside of COVID feels permanently memory-holed.

Yeah, I am not really sure what impact they’ve had since Yield. Just Breathe was a “crossover” hit. Apparently Future Days got some play because it was featured in a video game. And then they had a string of singles off Dark Matter that were near or at the top of the rock singles charts, which nowadays I am pretty sure is the equivalent of dominating the jazz charts.

I listened to DM the other day and boy that album has energy!!

Its been a while since i put Gigaton on vinyl so ill listen to those two back to back

liebzz wrote:Yeah, I am not really sure what impact they’ve had since Yield. Just Breathe was a “crossover” hit. Apparently Future Days got some play because it was featured in a video game. And then they had a string of singles off Dark Matter that were near or at the top of the rock singles charts, which nowadays I am pretty sure is the equivalent of dominating the jazz charts.

Yes, but they DOMINATED the Jazz charts

I enjoy the gigaton sessions (including b-sides and "extras") as much as the first 7 albums

the released album in sequence is a bit underwhelming

same with s/t

coptheriotact wrote:I enjoy the gigaton sessions (including b-sides and "extras") as much as the first 7 albums

the released album in sequence is a bit underwhelming

same with s/t

What b sides and extras other than Get it Back?

is there a resequenced version with only the formal releases that works better for you?

Leatherhead wrote: What b sides and extras other than Get it Back?

stip wrote:is there a resequenced version with only the formal releases that works better for you?

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